Dons_1988 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: The first one. It's amazing how frequently it has an application, and finds a new audience. It's flawless, I tell you. The only flaw is that I don’t believe the 10 clubs hierarchy are all that interested in fighting this fight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Just now, Dons_1988 said: The only flaw is that I don’t believe the 10 clubs hierarchy are all that interested in fighting this fight. Yeah, I do kind of concede that at the bottom of the masterplan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Surprised they haven’t done a third place trophy up here seeing as they have them in the English championship and the likes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Yeah, I do kind of concede that at the bottom of the masterplan. Apologies, I didn’t read past paragraph 1 as thought I had it memorised. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Apologies, I didn’t read past paragraph 1 as thought I had it memorised. You'll know for next time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I'm thinking Poundland plastic trophy superglued to a massive base for the plaque containing the winners names. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty-RCFC Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 21 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: Correct. This is what should happen: All the non-OF clubs get together and demand a massively different distribution model that presents a much, much more level playing field for clubs. It could involve gate sharing, merchandising being pooled, a requirement for a large chunk of European income to be shared out etc. There would be a need for this model to involve lower league clubs also, so that no cliff face exists. When these demands are rejected by the clubs and spluttered about in the media, the top flight diddies agree ahead of the next full season, that they will field youth sides against the OF, ensuring that they get hammered each and every time. For home matches against the OF, they should urge their own fans to boycott the games, opening the grounds entirely to OF fans if they still want to come. It'll mean that the OF sides take maximum points from everyone else, and the title will rest solely on the 4 OF games. The spectacle for Sky will be shit and thoroughly devalued. Meanwhile, the teams will all compete as usual against each other, meaning the 3rd placed team will be regarded as Champions by actual fans everywhere. A trophy could even be presented. Relegation will still be decided in the traditional way, but as everyone has lost to the OF every time, the outcome will again be entirely reliant on non-OF fixtures. The actual end of season table would not be that vastly different from what we get each year anyway. The difference would be that the others would have stopped pretending that they all take part in a valid competition to win the league. Think how this would capture the imagination. Fans would for the first time be involved in what would be considered the actual title race. This would be an international, sensational media story of the ancient footballing nation that stood up to the injustices of the modern game. The Latest OF league win would be rendered hollower than ever, derived as it would be from just 4 matches against 1 opponent. Meanwhile, we'd all hail our new real champions. No way would those in our game have the courage to do any of this of course, but it's a nice dream. We need the behaviour of our clubs to reflect that we don't need the OF, but they do need us Sensational. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: The only flaw is that I don’t believe the 10 clubs hierarchy are all that interested in fighting this fight. Well your club certainly aren’t. They’ve already proven that. Edited November 14, 2023 by TPAFKA Jersey 2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indicator Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 On 14/11/2023 at 23:30, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Well your club certainly aren’t. They’ve already proven that. TBF to him, the boardrooms of most of the 10 clubs are likely full of members who see themselves as having an affinity to one of the two cheeks. It's only ever the fans that want change and a competitive league, the chance was lost in 2012. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 34 minutes ago, indicator said: TBF to him, the boardrooms of most of the 10 clubs are likely full of members who see themselves as having an affinity to one of the two cheeks. It's only ever the fans that want change and a competitive league, the chance was lost in 2012. Milne’s decision was nothing to do with any affinity to either of the arsecheeks.. It was just pure diddy club delusional greed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Milne’s decision was nothing to do with any affinity to either of the arsecheeks.. It was just pure diddy club delusional greed. Milner decision was shameful, I’ve said it many times on this forum. But stop pretending the other premiership clubs are valiant fighters against the OF status quo. The other 10 are very comfortable with what we have just now at boardroom level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 57 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Milner decision was shameful, I’ve said it many times on this forum. But stop pretending the other premiership clubs are valiant fighters against the OF status quo. The other 10 are very comfortable with what we have just now at boardroom level. Well I know that the other 10 at the time voted to change the ridiculous voting rules. A once in a lifetime opportunity that Aberdeen royally screwed because Milne thought Aberdeen could be the new Rangers. Well in keeping with the delusions of grandeur typical of Aberdeen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 7 hours ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Well I know that the other 10 at the time voted to change the ridiculous voting rules. A once in a lifetime opportunity that Aberdeen royally screwed because Milne thought Aberdeen could be the new Rangers. Well in keeping with the delusions of grandeur typical of Aberdeen. If you just want to shout into an empty room about Aberdeen then I’m not going to stop you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: If you just want to shout into an empty room about Aberdeen then I’m not going to stop you. Well if your previous response had finished after the word forum (as it should have done), I’d have had no need to respond again. Edited November 18, 2023 by TPAFKA Jersey 2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Well if your previous response had finished after the word forum (as it should have done), I’d have had no need to respond again. I’m happy to engage in a discussion about the issues at hand. But it’s clear you have an issue with Aberdeen as a club and/or city and are using the decision of one guy to justify it. I’m afraid that’s your problem and I’m just not that interested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: I’m happy to engage in a discussion about the issues at hand. But it’s clear you have an issue with Aberdeen as a club and/or city and are using the decision of one guy to justify it. I’m afraid that’s your problem and I’m just not that interested. I don’t think my comment really provoked a discussion. It was just a statement of fact. It would only really provoke a discussion if someone wanted to dispute it was true. You started off with an excellent, honest response, but then couldn’t help yourself from entering into whataboutery. As for the people of Aberdeen and the city itself, I have no issue whatsoever. But the “decision of one guy” as you somewhat dismissively put it, was monumental and completely scuppered a one time only opportunity to change Scottish football for the better forever. That kinda thing lives long in the memory and will always stick in the craw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: I don’t think my comment really provoked a discussion. It was just a statement of fact. It would only really provoke a discussion if someone wanted to dispute it was true. You started off with an excellent, honest response, but then couldn’t help yourself from entering into whataboutery. As for the people of Aberdeen and the city itself, I have no issue whatsoever. But the “decision of one guy” as you somewhat dismissively put it, was monumental and completely scuppered a one time only opportunity to change Scottish football for the better forever. That kinda thing lives long in the memory and will always stick in the craw. Of course it was, almost every Aberdeen fan would agree with you. If you have no issue with us then withdraw your little comment about ‘delusions of grandeur of Aberdeen’ and we can move on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Of course it was, almost every Aberdeen fan would agree with you. If you have no issue with us then withdraw your little comment about ‘delusions of grandeur of Aberdeen’ and we can move on. Ha ha. Fair enough. I suppose I have a tiny issue with the attitude of a lot of (but not all obviously) Aberdeen fans who still seem to live in the 1980s. You’re really not “famous” any more. Out of curiosity on the Milne thing, did he expressly go against the stated view of Aberdeen fans, or were the fans not canvassed for their opinion before the decision was taken? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 On 13/11/2023 at 17:03, MarbellaDEE said: We, the diddies should all just group together and purchase a trophy for the champs. Would certainly make this never ending procession a bit more exciting. This is legitimately a great idea. It’s the kind of thing that would make the news. “Scottish football supporters club together to buy 3rd place ‘Diddyship’ trophy.” It would be a great way of expressing our complete disdain towards the current set-up. Every season a ballot could be held to send one lucky member of P&B to the Diddyship Champions stadium and award them the trophy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, jamamafegan said: This is legitimately a great idea. It’s the kind of thing that would make the news. “Scottish football supporters club together to buy 3rd place ‘Diddyship’ trophy.” It would be a great way of expressing our complete disdain towards the current set-up. Very easily dismissed and mocked. That would be precisely the nature of any news coverage. The current set-up needs simultaneously undermined. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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