bennett Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 43 minutes ago, Fife Saint said: It boggles the mind how the ref can only initially give a yellow there. Are they doing it intentionally becaue they know VAR can bail them out? Refs have a split second view and get things wrong, VAR gives them a chance to double check. Hearts recently had a red card rescinded and a penalty given after VAR intervened in a game against us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, bennett said: Refs have a split second view and get things wrong, VAR gives them a chance to double check. Hearts recently had a red card rescinded and a penalty given after VAR intervened in a game against us. They must have had an east coast mason on the VAR that day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, bennett said: Refs have a split second view and get things wrong, VAR gives them a chance to double check. Hearts recently had a red card rescinded and a penalty given after VAR intervened in a game against us. Of course they do in debatable situations. In this instance there can't have been any doubt about what the decision should be whic makes me wonder if they are making a deliberate choice to not give the red, which is completely different from an honest mistake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyzer0 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, bennett said: Refs have a split second view and get things wrong, VAR gives them a chance to double check. Hearts recently had a red card rescinded and a penalty given after VAR intervened in a game against us. Can't have been that recent. We've not had a penalty awarded to us all season. I do remember that wee shit McAusland diving earlier this season and VAR saying it was definitely still a Penalty for Rangers though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USSR Tycoon Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) Animals. The treatment of Rangers players by St J was appalling. Obvious instructions from the 4-6 manager! Edited December 21, 2023 by USSR Tycoon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, lennyzer0 said: Can't have been that recent. We've not had a penalty awarded to us all season. You sure about that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Center half Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) Red all day long don't think anyone is not agreeing with that, In the old days it was described as " a Forwards tackle" a player being hopelessly played out of position and out of his depth makes a poor tackle to try to win the ball! Clements claims are shocking though IMO. He shouting about Dan Philips tackle being a leg breaker can i ask how come? he goes in hard wins the ball easily and nothing wrong with it ? Liam Gordon goes in hard wins the ball easily and that clown Cantwell goes down like he has a broken leg rolls about for what seemed like an eternity. If these tackles are now Kicking people of the park then the game as we know as football is finished might as well change the name to Futsal and be done with it! Also from the old days of football a player like Lundstram is your "If you give it out. you got to be prepared to take it" Watched him a few times for Sheffield United years ago and i always thought he was a bit of the Hammer thrower TBH. Reports from some of the guys at the game the Jaiyesimi was racially abused when going off ! Now that might be something for Mr Clement to describe as shocking ! although he hears that type of abuse every game i suppose! Edited December 21, 2023 by Center half 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broughty Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, USSR Tycoon said: Animals. The treatment of Rangers players by St J was appalling. Obvious instructions from the 4-6 manager! Rubbish, absolute rubbish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Pack Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 If Lundstrum makes that tackle it’s 100 % a yellow card at Ibrox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnoswald2712 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Just now, Old Pack said: If Lundstrum makes that tackle it’s 100 % a yellow card at Ibrox. Don’t think anyone can argue it wasn’t a red card especially in today’s game. However DJ was making a genuine attempt for the ball, depending which angle you watch actually wins the ball while Lundstram attempts a two footed block tackle. Contrast this with Dowell throwing a shoulder into Sprangler’s face after the ball has gone. No attempt to play the ball, just an assault on a player not in a position to defend himself. Unsurprisingly there was no card issued. As random guy said earlier, it’s not the decisions Rangers get, it’s the ones their opponents don’t get that makes a difference. Imagine they had to play 85 minutes with 10 men last night and tell me that wouldn’t have made a difference 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 51 minutes ago, Old Pack said: If Lundstrum makes that tackle it’s 100 % a yellow card at Ibrox. We've already had two players sent off at Ibrox this season in the league. Why would a red card offence (and let's be clear here, it's absolutely a red card) be different if it were Lundstram committing the foul? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Center half said: Liam Gordon goes in hard wins the ball easily and that clown Cantwell goes down like he has a broken leg rolls about for what seemed like an eternity. That was kind of hilarious. Such an obvious dive that even his team mates just kept playing on and ignored him rolling about squealing in the box. Incredibly his leg miraculously reattached itself by the next attack. Quite why he didnt get a booking for it is beyond me, but then again its Ibrox. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double deluxe Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Did they even give a foul for this? Yes and yellow card, Collum was referred to VAR monitor and still never upgraded it to a red despite upgrading a nicky clark non-tackle from a yellow to a red minutes prior 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, lennyzer0 said: Can't have been that recent. We've not had a penalty awarded to us all season. I do remember that wee shit McAusland diving earlier this season and VAR saying it was definitely still a Penalty for Rangers though. It was in November. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Old Pack said: If Lundstrum makes that tackle it’s 100 % a yellow card at Ibrox. Not for that tackle. It's a red from every angle not even the likes of Dallas could ignore that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AJF Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: I seen the offending tweet. Some people are lost causes and deserve everything that comes their way. They will get traced even if it's a faceless twitter account. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, AJF said: I seen the offending tweet. Some people are lost causes and deserve everything that comes their way. They will get traced even if it's a faceless twitter account. It wasnt a faceless Twitter account, their real name and online profiles on Steam etc., were found within a couple of hours and presumably handed to the police. Someone who plays some game with them recognised the username and helped the search. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: It wasnt a faceless Twitter account, their real name and online profiles on Steam etc., were found within a couple of hours and presumably handed to the police. Someone who plays some game with them recognised the username and helped the search. Even better then if folk have managed to save the police a bit of time in tracing them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broughty Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 4 hours ago, johnoswald2712 said: Don’t think anyone can argue it wasn’t a red card especially in today’s game. However DJ was making a genuine attempt for the ball, depending which angle you watch actually wins the ball while Lundstram attempts a two footed block tackle. Contrast this with Dowell throwing a shoulder into Sprangler’s face after the ball has gone. No attempt to play the ball, just an assault on a player not in a position to defend himself. Unsurprisingly there was no card issued. As random guy said earlier, it’s not the decisions Rangers get, it’s the ones their opponents don’t get that makes a difference. Imagine they had to play 85 minutes with 10 men last night and tell me that wouldn’t have made a difference The assault on Sprangler was the worst the whole night. Why that wasn’t a booking only the ref knows. Did the Rangers manager miss that or is it ok if done by one of his players? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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