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Just now, edinabear said:

Don't think I've seen a team go from playing with such confidence to that. 

Tbf I think Hutton was right when he said it was more a lack of understanding between the players when the subs came on. We need to work on that but it’s not a terminal issue.

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1 minute ago, BukyOHare said:

We were badly found out against England, France and now Netherlands.

The elite teams take their chances, the average teams don't.

Is anybody really that surprised?

I would hardly say we were badly found out tonight, quite the opposite tbh. 

The game got away from us after the 84th minute, after all the subs. 

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With Adams it's much the same story as most strikers before him.  He's not great, but he's amongst the best we've got.  If we had markedly better players, he wouldn't be there.  But we don't.  Shankland is probably in the same boat.

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Just now, Jambomo said:

Tbf I think Hutton was right when he said it was more a lack of understanding between the players when the subs came on. We need to work on that but it’s not a terminal issue.

No, there are far to many of the squad not of an elite standard. Souttar, Ralston etc aren't good enough.

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1 minute ago, forameus said:

With Adams it's much the same story as most strikers before him.  He's not great, but he's amongst the best we've got.  If we had markedly better players, he wouldn't be there.  But we don't.  Shankland is probably in the same boat.

The only problem with Adams is that he isn’t a goal scorer and he has missed some proper sitters for us. He will chase after every ball, run the channels all day long and is pretty good at holding the ball up. You don’t really get much credit for all that from fans, probably rightly so when you are there to score goals as well, but I think he’s our best striker.

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5 minutes ago, No_Problemo said:

I would hardly say we were badly found out tonight, quite the opposite tbh. 

The game got away from us after the 84th minute, after all the subs. 

Positives for definite but 4 nil tells its own story. 

The strength in depth of both squads and the taking of chances is what separates teams at all levels of the game.

How many times would we beat a Dutch, French or English team?

We were naive and badly found out late on.

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Yes and no I'd say.

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Just now, Jives Miguel said:

Shankland will rightly get pelters for the sitter, but I thought he was decent otherwise. Hope he gets another chance against Northern Ireland 

I don't think he deserves that much abuse for it even.  Inches lower, cracking finish one-on-one, just fine margins.  Obviously you'd hope a striker of his quality would finish that, but it's not like he blazed it miles over or wide.

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Couldn't score, shipped four. For much of the match, the radio commentary gushed as if we were winning. It especially went to pieces after the subs.

It could be same old same old in June.

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The main benefits from friendlies are:

1. Confidence booster ..... fail

2. Trying new things .... jury out

3. Assessing players ..... success in realising John Souttar shouldn't be in dark blue ever again

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I always had Robert Snodgrass nailed down as a brain dead fud but he has been very good doing the analysis tonight.

thought the starting 11 were going toe to toe tonight, beat by a wonder-goal. Paterson was having a nightmare but it wasn’t catastrophic.

Gilmour was dictating the game and it was a surprise he went off. McGinn was having a quiet game and would have been a better fit for a swap with Ferguson. 

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Shite shite shite

 

Shanklin can score goals unlike the rest. Yes missed a sitter but should have more opportunities

 

We looked good up till 60 mins

 

Souter looked amateur

 

Try ferguson out in different positions because yes tough to break through but let them break. Or a waste.

 

Gilmour was class

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Frustrating night. Played well for 2/3 of the match but the collapse in the final third is concerning.

Shankland did okay, its not as if Dykes and Adams are prolific against the too sides.

We aren't going to unearth a top level striking talent but we need to be more critical.

Hopefully the players can restore some confidence against the six counties on Tuesday.

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15 minutes ago, GuyIncognito said:

I think that result has exposed a real lack of quality in defence beyond the regular back 5 of Robertson-Tierney-Hendry-Porteous-Hickey. Patterson was poor tonight as was Souttar when he came on. Ralston simply isn't Scotland quality.

If Hickey isn't fit for June and if there are any other injuries in defence then I'd be seriously worried for us at the Euros


I think this is a bit pessimistic regarding the defence. Hanley started in the home game against Spain and McKenna in the away game and the defensive performances were both very good. I don't think either of those are much of a drop off from Hendry or Porteous.

Robertson, Tierney and Hickey are the three we really need to have available.

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3 minutes ago, super-son said:

McGinn has been playing a strange game tonight. It looks like he is taking every opportunity to get his arse involved and invite pressure into himself when there has been easy passes on.

Aye it's why I'll never totally love him the way other scotland fans do. 

He seems more interested in drawing fouls than progressing the play, like his pal Grealish.

 

 

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