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12 minutes ago, Binos said:

Strathallan is nowhere near stirling and not in Stirlingshire or stirling council region and has never before been anywhere near getting in the constituency, its very close to Perth

So all a little suspicious 

I see it is not going near Strathallan school itself 

However the rest stands for the area that has been included 

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1 hour ago, Binos said:

Strathallan is nowhere near stirling and not in Stirlingshire or stirling council region and has never before been anywhere near getting in the constituency, its very close to Perth

So all a little suspicious 

It’s the same in my constituency. Dunfermline in West Fife now also includes the affluent areas of Dollar and Muchart in Clackmanan.

It feels very much like lines being drawn on a map by people who have no knowledge of the local areas. 

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Alloa now comes close to being in the same constituency as the Falkirk Stadium.

TBF, on paper it looks like it makes more sense than extending up into the woolly wilds of Perthshire.

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7 minutes ago, BFTD said:

Alloa now comes close to being in the same constituency as the Falkirk Stadium.

TBF, on paper it looks like it makes more sense than extending up into the woolly wilds of Perthshire.

I was just about to say that. It seems crazy that Alloa had been lumped in with Crieff, Abernethy and Bankfoot north of Perth.

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2 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said:

I was just about to say that. It seems crazy that Alloa had been lumped in with Crieff, Abernethy and Bankfoot north of Perth.

Alloa might have gone from an SNP/LAB/CON marginal that the Tories won in 2017 to SNP/LAB with the Tories struggling for their deposit.

It did seem utterly bizarre that Alloa hosted a Conservative MP's constituency office for about eighteen months.

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12 hours ago, DrewDon said:

Sunak somehow manages to sound less convincing than David Cameron when he decides to make any reference to at all to football.

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It's an indicator of how downright fucking weird both Sunak & Starmer are that they are both evidently genuine football fans who are passionate about Southampton and Arsenal respectively and attend games every chance they get, yet they still contrive to sound like they've never watched a game of football in their lives and are less sincere than David Cameron forgetting which team he claimed to support whenever they talk about football.

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5 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said:

It's an indicator of how downright fucking weird both Sunak & Starmer are that they are both evidently genuine football fans who are passionate about Southampton and Arsenal respectively and attend games every chance they get, yet they still contrive to sound like they've never watched a game of football in their lives and are less sincere than David Cameron forgetting which team he claimed to support whenever they talk about football.

They'll still never be as bad as Tony Blair and his "I became a Newcastle fan just after Jackie Milburn".

He was living in Australia at the time.

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4 hours ago, Binos said:

Strathallan is nowhere near stirling and not in Stirlingshire or stirling council region and has never before been anywhere near getting in the constituency, its very close to Perth

So all a little suspicious 

Stirling Council isn't big enough to form a constituency any more because Scotland is going down from 59 to 57 constituencies, so it has to include part of a neighbouring council area. It's gaining 8.6% of the previous Ochil & South Perthshire seat. Is there any area more obvious that it should have gained instead? And if it gained that area, what else should that constituency have gained instead? It just goes on and on. 

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3 hours ago, Dunfermline Don said:

It’s the same in my constituency. Dunfermline in West Fife now also includes the affluent areas of Dollar and Muchart in Clackmanan.

It feels very much like lines being drawn on a map by people who have no knowledge of the local areas. 

So how would you have drawn the boundary, given that they must have between 69,724 and 77,062 electors? And how does that affect other constituencies?

Constituencies can't possibly just follow "local areas" and it's all swings and roundabouts. 

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Was out leafleting yesterday for the election which brought to mind the one policy that could surely unite all the parties, namely, any members of a household that live in a property with a door that's got a letterbox set at floor level should be denied the right to vote. I wonder if they realise how much their postie must hate them.

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12 minutes ago, Caro-Kann said:

Was out leafleting yesterday for the election which brought to mind the one policy that could surely unite all the parties, namely, any members of a household that live in a property with a door that's got a letterbox set at floor level should be denied the right to vote. I wonder if they realise how much their postie must hate them.

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Only worse thing is a dog at the other side.  In all my years of leafleting it only happened two or three times but it was very off putting.

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38 minutes ago, GordonS said:

Stirling Council isn't big enough to form a constituency any more because Scotland is going down from 59 to 57 constituencies, so it has to include part of a neighbouring council area. It's gaining 8.6% of the previous Ochil & South Perthshire seat. Is there any area more obvious that it should have gained instead? And if it gained that area, what else should that constituency have gained instead? It just goes on and on. 

Hillfoots

But then,  not many conservatives there

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5 hours ago, Binos said:

Strathallan is nowhere near stirling and not in Stirlingshire or stirling council region and has never before been anywhere near getting in the constituency, its very close to Perth

So all a little suspicious 

Went to an airshow there once ....just sayin.

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2 hours ago, Binos said:

Hillfoots

But then,  not many conservatives there

Ok, so to make up for the loss of Hillfoots from the constituency that's now in, what do they get instead? 

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1 hour ago, orfc said:

Carlisle constituency now includes old bits of Penrith and the Border like Kershopefoot, 20 miles away up in the forestry plantations on the border, but doesn't actually include new build houses on the southern outskirts of the town

Carlisle constituency is all the wards in the north-east of the new Cumberland unitary authority, collected together until you hit the quota. If they had that ward to the south of the city they'd need to give something up to another constituency instead. There's nothing more logical they could give to Penrith & Solway to the south instead, and the only alternative is break the council boundaries (which they're supposed to avoid wherever possible) and give a ward to Hexham, which would mean they'd have to lose something instead and they'd also have a random bit Cumberland council.

Anyone criticising a boundary should say what better alternative they have. That's why they're all consulted upon extensively.

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2 hours ago, Caro-Kann said:

Was out leafleting yesterday for the election which brought to mind the one policy that could surely unite all the parties, namely, any members of a household that live in a property with a door that's got a letterbox set at floor level should be denied the right to vote. I wonder if they realise how much their postie must hate them.

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Make it one of those tiny old letterboxes, wide enough only for a single standard-width envelope, and springs that require both hands to push open without losing fingers. And aye, the snarling beast on the other side.

When I delivered free papers as a young shaver, there were a couple of doors I skipped as that's as good as saying "don't deliver anything here" as far as I'm concerned.

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3 hours ago, GordonS said:

Ok, so to make up for the loss of Hillfoots from the constituency that's now in, what do they get instead? 

It's irrelevant,  as no way that area voting in a Conservative in a million years, but the decision on my area could swing it

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8 hours ago, Caro-Kann said:

Was out leafleting yesterday for the election which brought to mind the one policy that could surely unite all the parties, namely, any members of a household that live in a property with a door that's got a letterbox set at floor level should be denied the right to vote. I wonder if they realise how much their postie must hate them.

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Rishi appreciates your efforts.

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