O'Kelly Isley III Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, MazzyStar said: Liz Truss happened. What's your point ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Clavdivs Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) 6% of a difference but delivers 27 more seats . Just shows what a shit show FPTP is . Edited July 5 by I Clavdivs 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: What's your point ? That’s the reason for the scale of political oscillation between 2019 and 2024 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 12 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: This has been an unmitigated disaster for the SNP. One that very few of us saw coming and one that they need to start working to address now. Most opinion polls saw it coming. I think most MRP predictions had the SNP getting around 10 seats, give or take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Shame to see Mordaunt papped out as she was my preferred Tory MILF. I wonder if there are any new candidates for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Alex Cole Hamilton and Pam Duncan Glancy on BBC Scotland at the moment. Two utter c***s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 When does the internal bloodletting start for the Snp? Some big hitters will be desperate to get back up the road to the holyrood trough. Wonder if the continuity/cover up wrong doing candidate will survive or the other side of the party make a play 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, ICTChris said: Most opinion polls saw it coming. I think most MRP predictions had the SNP getting around 10 seats, give or take. The opinion polls I saw showed SNP and Labour fairly close percentage wise. I think some of the ones closer to polling day saw the SNP slightly ahead. Of course I could be wrong; wouldn’t be the first time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 My cousin is now an MP, delighted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 9 minutes ago, itzdrk said: They both absolutely did deserve it. The fact that the kicking that was given (in Scotland) was in the form of red blue Tories tells a totally different story about what is happening though. Big story of the night is Reform. They got over 3000 votes in Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath seat! More than Lib Dems, Greens and Alba. That’s mental. Apart from the word Reform, like Labour’s ‘change’, what are they offering that 3000 people want? It’s not like Fife has been crazily affected by immigration, unless the Poles are a problem for folk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 (edited) I've just had a relief orgasm in my pants at SNP winning Angus/Perthshire. I had a horrible feeling the tories would sneak through. Edited July 5 by tongue_tied_danny 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 19 minutes ago, Scary Bear said: That’s the spirit! Both the Tories and the SNP got the kicking they so richly deserved. The SNP can now reflect and try and be more competent and voter friendly before the next Holyrood elections. What did the SNP at Westminster do wrong? They were in opposition after all and from what I can see were as effective as Labour on most issues and far more effective on some, such as the genocide in Gaza. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theatom Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Bit depressed for SNP this morning though not unexpected. However as previously said FPTP doesn’t give a true picture. Over 800K votes for Labour against nearly 700K for SNP does not suggest the desire for independence is dead. Most of my friends and family who voted Labour were voting to get Tories out rather than SNP out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 5 minutes ago, Scary Bear said: Big story of the night is Reform. They got over 3000 votes in Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath seat! More than Lib Dems, Greens and Alba. That’s mental. Apart from the word Reform, like Labour’s ‘change’, what are they offering that 3000 people want? It’s not like Fife has been crazily affected by immigration, unless the Poles are a problem for folk. Many people are racist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 4 minutes ago, AyrExile said: When does the internal bloodletting start for the Snp? Some big hitters will be desperate to get back up the road to the holyrood trough. Wonder if the continuity/cover up wrong doing candidate will survive or the other side of the party make a play "Other side of the party" - you realise who is DFM and Economics Secretary? Swinney has attempted to unite the party and has the standard bearer for the "other side" as his deputy. As bad a night as it was, it's hard to pin it on Swinney who's had the job for 2 months out of 15 really awful ones for the SNP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, itzdrk said: Many people are racist. That’s all I can really take from it. I haven’t noticed too many small boats in the Forth and there aren’t that many black faces either. Is there another reason people vote Reform? Pissed off with the main parties and seen as the anti-establishment vote? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrbridgeSaintee Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Did not expect the SNP to do as badly as that, although their gain to defeat Ross was amusing. It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy(!) Some of those swings to Labour were beyond belief. In Northern Ireland, Jim Allister in the commons will be a laugh and I was relieved that Robinson defeated Long well in East Belfast. Great to see Stephen Farry kicked into touch too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 minutes ago, Scary Bear said: That’s all I can really take from it. I haven’t noticed too many small boats in the Forth and there aren’t that many black faces either. Is there another reason people vote Reform? Pissed off with the main parties and seen as the anti-establishment vote? Nah, it's 99% ignorant racism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongue_tied_danny Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, Scary Bear said: That’s all I can really take from it. I haven’t noticed too many small boats in the Forth and there aren’t that many black faces either. Is there another reason people vote Reform? Pissed off with the main parties and seen as the anti-establishment vote? They believe all the shite about foreigners jumping the queue for housing, benefits and the NHS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 minute ago, Scary Bear said: That’s all I can really take from it. I haven’t noticed too many small boats in the Forth and there aren’t that many black faces either. Is there another reason people vote Reform? Pissed off with the main parties and seen as the anti-establishment vote? would be interesting to see the demographics, if young people are voting reform in Scotland? which would match a european trend How many votes did reform get overall in Scotland? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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