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BBC and Premier have extended their TV rights for another 5 years. 

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/broadcaster-boost-for-scottish-gas-mens-scottish-cup/?rid=14258

Premier will show an extra game in rounds 4 and 5. It’s not explicitly mentioned, but I assume the BBC retain their 2 games in each round from 4-6 (Premier not having an extra quarter final would suggest this is the case). 

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You would presume that it's the case but the BBC statement is very odd:

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BBC Scotland will continue to broadcast live matches and highlights from the Scottish Cup for another five years.

The new deal extends the BBC's arrangement of showing a game from each round - up to and including the final - on a free-to-air platform.

The contract also allows the broadcaster to produce "near live digital highlights".

If they dropped to one game per round, then that would leave one Quarter Final off the TV, which I can't imagine the SFA would like.

The old deal was around £3-4m a season, with Premier paying the lions' share, I think around 65% of the fee. Imagine it won't be drastically different.

The "near live digital highlights" is a long overdue first in Scottish football and is something that will be very interesting to see how the BBC use. Live-tweeting goal clips of non-televised games will be nice.

Presuming it's the same deal, it would mean:
R1: BBC
R2: BBC
R3: BBC
R4: Premier, Premier, Premier, BBC, BBC (11 non-televised but digital clips to BBC)
R5: Premier, Premier, Premier, BBC, BBC (3 non-televised but digital clips to BBC)
QF: Premier, Premier, BBC, BBC
SF: Premier, Premier/BBC 
Final: Shared

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I would hope the pick order in R4 and R5 is Premier, Premier, BBC, BBC, Premier.  Otherwise it's a worse deal for the BBC. 

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If there are only 5 games on TV in R4, and there are 12 Premiership teams, then you'd expect at least 4 or 5 not to be on TV, maybe more depending on the draw.

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Do we have any confirmed dates yet beyond those given in the Highland League fixture list (namely 1st round (28 September) and 2nd round (26 October)).

I’m interested to know when the preliminary round takes place, and trying to use mind-control to keep it away from 7th September. 

 

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1 hour ago, Le Tout P'ti FC said:

Do we have any confirmed dates yet beyond those given in the Highland League fixture list (namely 1st round (28 September) and 2nd round (26 October)).

I’m interested to know when the preliminary round takes place, and trying to use mind-control to keep it away from 7th September. 

 

What's so special about the 7th September apart from the fact that it is

  • The 36th Saturday of 2024.
  • On the 36th week of 2024.
  • The 79th day of Summer.
  • 1954 years sinceA Roman army under Titus occupies and plunders Jerusalem.
  • 88 years since the last thylacine, a carnivorous marsupial named Benjamin, dies alone in its cage at the Hobart Zoo in Tasmania.
  • And, there are 15 days left until Autumn.

 

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17 hours ago, Le Tout P'ti FC said:

Do we have any confirmed dates yet beyond those given in the Highland League fixture list (namely 1st round (28 September) and 2nd round (26 October)).

I’m interested to know when the preliminary round takes place, and trying to use mind-control to keep it away from 7th September.

Dates usually scarcely alter from season-to-season. Very unlikely SFA would fix Preliminary for Saturday 7th September given it's an international weekend - no doubt a relief to Fort William...

Incidentally unless anybody licensed yesterday by my reckoning:



Extra Preliminary (6)     including 2 random byes
East of Scotland
     First Division (1)     Bo'ness Athletic          qualified as winner of South, East & West of Scotland Cup-Winners' Shield
West of Scotland
     Premier Division (1)     Beith          qualified as champions
North Caledonian (1)     Invergordon          qualified as champions
Midland Juniors (1)     Dundee North End          qualified as champions
North Juniors
     Premier (1)     Culter          qualified as champions
Amateurs (1)     Cupar Hearts          qualified as winner of Scottish Amateur Cup

Preliminary (52)
East of Scotland (24)
     Premier Division (13)     Dunbar, Dundonald, Dunipace, Edinburgh Uni, Haddington, Hill of Beath, Hutchison Vale, Jeanfield, Musselburgh, Penicuik, St Andrews, Sauchie, Tynecastle
     First Division (5)     Blackburn, Camelon, Newtongrange, Preston, Whitehill
     Second Division (5)     Burntisland, Coldstream, Dalkeith, Easthouses, Vale of Leithen
     Third Division (1)     Hawick
West of Scotland (15)
     Premier Division (7)     Auchinleck, Benburb, Clydebank, Cumnock, Darvel, Glenafton, Pollok
     First Division (3)     Irvine Meadow, Kilwinning, Rutherglen
     Second Division (1)     Bonnyton
     Third Division (3)     Girvan, Glasgow Uni, Threave
     Fourth Division (1)     Carluke
South of Scotland (5)     Creetown, Dalbeattie, Newton Stewart, St Cuthbert, Wigtown & Bladnoch
North Caledonian (2)     Fort William, Golspie
Midland Juniors (2)     Lochee Utd, Tayport
+4 from Extra Preliminary

First Round (60)
Lowland (16)     Albion Rovers, Berwick, Bo'ness Utd, Broomhill, Broxburn, Caledonian Braves, Civil SS, Cowdenbeath, Cumbernauld Colts, East Kilbride, East Stirlingshire, Gala, Gretna, Linlithgow, Tranent, Uni of Stirling
Highland (18)     Banks o'Dee, Brechin, Brora, Buckie, Clachnacuddin, Deveronvale, Formartine, Forres, Fraserburgh, Huntly, Inverurie, Keith, Lossiemouth, Nairn, Rothes, Strathspey, Turriff, Wick
+26 from Preliminary

Second Round (40)
SPFL2 (10)     Bonnyrigg, Clyde, East Fife, Edinburgh City, Elgin, Forfar, Peterhead, Stirling Albion, Spartans, Stranraer
+30 from R1

Third Round (40)
Championship (10)     Airdrie, Ayr Utd, Dunfermline, Falkirk, Greenock Morton, Hamilton, Livingston, Partick, Queen's Park, Raith
SPFL1 (10)     Alloa, Annan, Arbroath, Cove, Dumbarton, Inverness, Kelty, Montrose, Queen of the South, Stenhousemuir
+20 from R2

Fourth Round (32)
Premiership (12)     Aberdeen, Celtic, Dundee, Dundee Utd, Hearts, Hibs, Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Rangers, Ross County, St Johnstone, St Mirren
+20 from R3



Bo'ness Athletic + DNE debut.

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On 06/06/2024 at 16:54, The Master said:

I would hope the pick order in R4 and R5 is Premier, Premier, BBC, BBC, Premier.  Otherwise it's a worse deal for the BBC. 

Apparently, this is the case. Premier's new game is the fifth pick.

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I went to the 1st Preliminary round last season- Abbey Vale v Cupar Hearts. It was on 12th August. 

My road to Hampden took me all the way from this game to the Semi Final game of Aberdeen v Celtic. Couldn't be arsed with the Final.

I went from New Abbey, Dumfries to Jeanfield in Perth then up to Wick and back to Jeanfield again. Whence to Clyde twice and then to Aberdeen twice. It was quite fun if a bit exhausting.  

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7 minutes ago, Hampden Diehard said:

Anyone see the definitive dates for each round anywhere?

 

Highland League included a couple of dates in their fixture list: R1 September 28th, R2 October 26th. I think that's the only place to say that's what the blank weekends are being used for the Scottish Cup.

31st August is expected to be Preliminary Round 2 based on the Scottish Junior Cup schedule.

Bit of guesswork based on SPFL fixture lists

R3 November 30th

R4 January 18th

R5 February 8th

 

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12 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Highland League included a couple of dates in their fixture list: R1 September 28th, R2 October 26th. I think that's the only place to say that's what the blank weekends are being used for the Scottish Cup.

31st August is expected to be Preliminary Round 2 based on the Scottish Junior Cup schedule.

Bit of guesswork based on SPFL fixture lists

R3 November 30th

R4 January 18th

R5 February 8th

 

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On 08/06/2024 at 12:09, HibeeJibee said:

Dates usually scarcely alter from season-to-season. Very unlikely SFA would fix Preliminary for Saturday 7th September given it's an international weekend - no doubt a relief to Fort William...

Incidentally unless anybody licensed yesterday by my reckoning:



Extra Preliminary (6)     including 2 random byes
East of Scotland
     First Division (1)     Bo'ness Athletic          qualified as winner of South, East & West of Scotland Cup-Winners' Shield
West of Scotland
     Premier Division (1)     Beith          qualified as champions
North Caledonian (1)     Invergordon          qualified as champions
Midland Juniors (1)     Dundee North End          qualified as champions
North Juniors
     Premier (1)     Culter          qualified as champions
Amateurs (1)     Cupar Hearts          qualified as winner of Scottish Amateur Cup

Preliminary (52)
East of Scotland (24)
     Premier Division (13)     Dunbar, Dundonald, Dunipace, Edinburgh Uni, Haddington, Hill of Beath, Hutchison Vale, Jeanfield, Musselburgh, Penicuik, St Andrews, Sauchie, Tynecastle
     First Division (5)     Blackburn, Camelon, Newtongrange, Preston, Whitehill
     Second Division (5)     Burntisland, Coldstream, Dalkeith, Easthouses, Vale of Leithen
     Third Division (1)     Hawick
West of Scotland (15)
     Premier Division (7)     Auchinleck, Benburb, Clydebank, Cumnock, Darvel, Glenafton, Pollok
     First Division (3)     Irvine Meadow, Kilwinning, Rutherglen
     Second Division (1)     Bonnyton
     Third Division (3)     Girvan, Glasgow Uni, Threave
     Fourth Division (1)     Carluke
South of Scotland (5)     Creetown, Dalbeattie, Newton Stewart, St Cuthbert, Wigtown & Bladnoch
North Caledonian (2)     Fort William, Golspie
Midland Juniors (2)     Lochee Utd, Tayport
+4 from Extra Preliminary

First Round (60)
Lowland (16)     Albion Rovers, Berwick, Bo'ness Utd, Broomhill, Broxburn, Caledonian Braves, Civil SS, Cowdenbeath, Cumbernauld Colts, East Kilbride, East Stirlingshire, Gala, Gretna, Linlithgow, Tranent, Uni of Stirling
Highland (18)     Banks o'Dee, Brechin, Brora, Buckie, Clachnacuddin, Deveronvale, Formartine, Forres, Fraserburgh, Huntly, Inverurie, Keith, Lossiemouth, Nairn, Rothes, Strathspey, Turriff, Wick
+26 from Preliminary

Second Round (40)
SPFL2 (10)     Bonnyrigg, Clyde, East Fife, Edinburgh City, Elgin, Forfar, Peterhead, Stirling Albion, Spartans, Stranraer
+30 from R1

Third Round (40)
Championship (10)     Airdrie, Ayr Utd, Dunfermline, Falkirk, Greenock Morton, Hamilton, Livingston, Partick, Queen's Park, Raith
SPFL1 (10)     Alloa, Annan, Arbroath, Cove, Dumbarton, Inverness, Kelty, Montrose, Queen of the South, Stenhousemuir
+20 from R2

Fourth Round (32)
Premiership (12)     Aberdeen, Celtic, Dundee, Dundee Utd, Hearts, Hibs, Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Rangers, Ross County, St Johnstone, St Mirren
+20 from R3



Bo'ness Athletic + DNE debut.

Don’t suppose there’s a date for the preliminary round draws out yet ? 

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On 03/07/2024 at 17:18, Eadie is God said:

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So 4weeks away and we still don’t know when the draw is for the first 2 preliminary rounds is going to be drawn?  Teams need time to make travel arrangements etc.  

 

does anybody know when the draw is going to take place. 

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4 hours ago, beithboy said:

So 4weeks away and we still don’t know when the draw is for the first 2 preliminary rounds is going to be drawn?  Teams need time to make travel arrangements etc.  

does anybody know when the draw is going to take place. 

Last season the draw was made 17 days before the first game so... you may be waiting another week or two for the draw to happen.

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