DrewDon Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 The security staff have informed Starmer that they conducted an ocular patdown on the protestor and no threat was detected. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 13 hours ago, Donathan said: I think there’s a very solid argument that a Scottish Labour MP who has a direct line into the cabinet can be more influential than an SNP MP when there’s a whomping majority government. There’s probably around 70% of the Scottish electorate that would never want to vote Conservative and that’s why their popular voting numbers have topped out in the mid to high 20’s under the relative popularity of Ruth Davidson and Douglas Ross compared to former leaders like Annabel Goldie, Jackson Carlaw and David McLetchie. But for Labour, their brand is far less toxic and I think an awful lot of voters would be willing to back them in the right circumstances. These could be those circumstances. Labour are looking at imposing mayors on Scotland as a means of bypassing Holyrood, they'd also benefit from having a beefed up Scottish contingent at WM led by the Scotland office to continue the Tory practices of meddling in devolved areas and chucking their s35 weight around. If you like the Scottish parliament, if you like devolution - you can't vote Labour. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 13 hours ago, Donathan said: These short sharp slogans can be effective. Not many voters have the time or the will to sit and read the manifestos so having a quick reminder of what the party is actually standing for can be effective. ”Get Brexit done” worked for Boris Johnson in 2019 because it appealed to both sides. Brexiteers wanted it done finally and properly. Remainers were just fed up of Brexit and wanted it out the way. “Make America great again” worked for Trump similarly. I agree though that this one is meaningless. I preferred Starmer’s previous one of “The best country in the world to grow up in, and the best country in the world to grow old in”. Not exactly as snappy as the 3 or 4 word efforts but straight and to the point nonetheless. That’s not sharp or memorable either. It is relatively short though. It’s actually quite impressive that they’ve managed to condense meaningless waffle into quite so few words. I don’t think I’ve ever lost interest before the end of a slogan. It’s like some kind of Jedi mind trick so that nobody notices Labour’s even there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, coprolite said: That’s not sharp or memorable either. It is relatively short though. It’s actually quite impressive that they’ve managed to condense meaningless waffle into quite so few words. I don’t think I’ve ever lost interest before the end of a slogan. It’s like some kind of Jedi mind trick so that nobody notices Labour’s even there. It's the Starmer way. Avoid doing anything, saying anything or believing in anything. Starmer's USP has always been the fact he's not the other guy. No need for anything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Dreading to think what utter goon gets elected as Mayor of Edinburgh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thane of Cawdor Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Ziggy Sobotka said: Dreading to think what utter goon gets elected as Mayor of Edinburgh. Do Hearts or Hibs have official mascots? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, Thane of Cawdor said: Do Hearts or Hibs have official mascots? Time for this grand coalition to rule Edinburgh with an iron fist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Quiet part out loud here from old man Blunkett. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 18:22, Ziggy Sobotka said: Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 On 11/10/2023 at 10:52, Ziggy Sobotka said: Dreading to think what utter goon gets elected as Mayor of Edinburgh. 1) Yogi 2) we don't have mayors in Scotland. We have provosts. And ours is a Lord Provost to boot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, tamthebam said: 1) Yogi 2) we don't have mayors in Scotland. We have provosts. And ours is a Lord Provost to boot. Only in the central belt... Highlands, Orkney, Shetland, Western Isles, Dumfries & Galloway, Borders etc. have Convenors. EDIT: as do Clackmannanshire research reveals. Meanwhile in Moray some unspeakable horror has been inflicted with the office rebranded 'the Civic Leader' ... Edited October 13, 2023 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Just now, HibeeJibee said: Only in the central belt... Highlands, Orkney, Shetland, Western Isles, Dumfries & Galloway, Borders etc. have Convenors. How convenient. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Labour councillor Deena Tissera, who seems to have been involved in a stooshie in the Aberdeen City Chambers, is a wid, if that's a point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Only in the central belt... Highlands, Orkney, Shetland, Western Isles, Dumfries & Galloway, Borders etc. have Convenors. EDIT: as do Clackmannanshire research reveals. Meanwhile in Moray some unspeakable horror has been inflicted with the office rebranded 'the Civic Leader' ... Orkney, Shetland etc should go back to using Jarl. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Inverness has a Provost. The only time they're seen has been at the Highland Fling Hogmonay Hoolie when they come on stage and give a speech that nobody pays any attention to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 10 hours ago, tamthebam said: 1) Yogi 2) we don't have mayors in Scotland. We have provosts. And ours is a Lord Provost to boot. I think the local government act/s specify that the four main cities Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee have Lord Provosts. Also, local government is devolved, so Starmer at Westminster can GTF. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Salt n Vinegar said: I think the local government act/s specify that the four main cities Glasgow, Edinburgh, Aberdeen and Dundee have Lord Provosts. Also, local government is devolved, so Starmer at Westminster can GTF. Local government is not really government it’s basically local administration. The overwhelming bulk of budgets are used to provide statutory services in a range of areas (education, social work, etc.). Of course local authorities are being asked to provide more of said services with fewer and fewer resources. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Local government is not really government it’s basically local administration. The overwhelming bulk of budgets are used to provide statutory services in a range of areas (education, social work, etc.). Of course local authorities are being asked to provide more of said services with fewer and fewer resources. Councils are riddled with old boys, (retired teachers etc), only interested in augmenting their pensions with council salaries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 I noted that that slithery snake Mandelson is lurking in the background with this Labour party. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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