Rugby Union

[ajwffc]

The Lions coaching team will be saving on hair products

[Mark Connolly]

Tandy and Townsend. 

Hope that’s not our quota reached already

[John Lambies Doos]

Think Gatland is more serious about Scottish involvement this year. This is who makes my squad.
Sutherland, Gray, Watson, Russell, Harris, DVM & Hogg.

Possible but long shot.: Price & Richie.

[Genuine Hibs Fan]

2 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said:

Think Gatland is more serious about Scottish involvement this year. This is who makes my squad.
Sutherland, Gray, Watson, Russell, Harris, DVM & Hogg.

Possible but long shot.: Price & Richie.

With the squad size they're taking I'd be surprised if Gray and Harris made it. Not that they don't deserve it (I've gone 180 on Harris' quality in particular) but there's a few guys ahead of them I'd say.

That being said Tandy being involved might mean getting a couple of his defensively important players a la Gray and Harris on the plane. That's the benefit of having coaches in the conversation I suppose

Edited April 13, 2021 by Genuine Hibs Fan

[John Lambies Doos]

Is Sutherland an injury doubt if picked?

[GordonS]

Tandy's inclusion boosts the chances of Harris going. Scotland have had the best defence in each of the past two 6N, and Harris has been the main component in that. Probably still odds against, but it has to be much more likely.

Funny to see Townsend talk about what a massive honour it was to be picked after he turned them down last time. I know the circumstances are different, but still.

https://www.planetrugby.com/townsend-snubs-lure-of-lions/

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Gregor Townsend has confirmed his decision to turn down the opportunity to join the British and Irish Lions coaching staff for 2017’s tour.

Townsend, who will take over as Scotland coach next June, admitted that the timing was not ideal and the reason he chose to snub the job.

“It’s a case of timing,” he told Scottish Rugby‘s official website.

“I feel hugely privileged to be given the Scotland job and our first opportunity to work with the players is at the same time as the Lions tour.

“I was approached a couple of weeks ago – and I was obviously flattered – but my priority now is Glasgow and at, the end of the season, Scotland are going on tour, so that’s the priority then.

“I had a good think and didn’t give an immediate answer. I really wanted to reflect on what was involved but I quickly realised that the Scotland tour to Australia is my number one priority at the end of this season.

“At international level you don’t get that much access with the players. This is the most access you’ll get with them. On a tour you get to work with them, preparing them and spending time with them, so that’s the biggest factor.”

 

[ajwffc]

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/new-eligibility-laws-could-prevent-folau-fakatava-from-playing-for-the-all-blacks-upon-return-from-injury/
Slight snag in the new eligibility laws

[honestly united]

 

8 hours ago, ajwffc said:

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/new-eligibility-laws-could-prevent-folau-fakatava-from-playing-for-the-all-blacks-upon-return-from-injury/
Slight snag in the new eligibility laws

Its not really a snag, its actually the whole point if why it was increased from 3 to 5 years. Tonga are losing out on a potentially world class fly half as someones parents sent him to a better school for a few years. So if he wants to play international rugby he either throws his hat in with Tonga, or sucks it up and waits for the 5 years to be up. Its not long anyway, he's out injured until next year, will then not be eligible next year anyway, but will be in 2023 when he is only 23 anyway.

Its to stop cases like DVDM who pitch up at Edinburgh for 3 years, as soon as he is capped by Scotland he is off chasing the cash in England - i dont blame him for doing it as he had no chance of getting capped by SA at the time he left, but you just look at the French academies they are full of young PI players that will be eligible for France once they've turned 23.

The following is a list of just the Tier 2 nations players at French academies (not the senior clubs) - I haven't checked but would assume there are probably a good number of SA / NZ / AUS players also. Its not just the case that it is more players that will be French qualified its also holding back the smaller nations as they wont get the players - in addition to the non release of international players from these countries that get signed by French clubs

 

Belgium
Bruno Vliegen (Clermont)
Gauthier Petit (Pau)
Luca Gruttadauria (Toulouse)
Dries de Keyser (Biarritz)
Charles-Henry Berguet (Perpignan)

Botswana
Basi Malesu (Pau)
Bame Malesu (Pau)

Cameroun
Christian Ambadiang (Nevers)

Canada
Tyler Duguid (Montpellier)
Quentin James (Stade Français)
William Percillier (Stade Français)

Chile
Iñaki Ayarza (Bayonne)

Czechia
Vojtech Vomacka (Grenoble)
Jakub Homer (Valence)

Fiji
Inoke Kurukuruvakatini (Agen)
Mesake Kurisaru (Clermont)
Ratu Jone Naulunisau (Clermont)
Veresa Ramototabua (Stade Français)
Henry Spring (Stade Français)
Epeli Momo (Montauban)
Alivereti Loaloa (Nevers)
Vilimone Seru (Nevers)
Josateki Tuituba (Nevers)
Taniela Ramasibana (Perpignan)
Tikomaijpani Batibasaga (Vannes)

Georgia
Vladimeri Chachanidze (Bayonne)
Ioane Iashaghashvili (Bayonne)
Saba Kaulashvili (Bordeaux)
Alexandre Zibzibadze (Brive) [french-georgian]
Tedo Abzhandadze (Brive)
Vano Karkadze (Brive)
Gigi Leshkasheli (Montpellier)
Aleksi Tchitchiashvili (Montpellier)
Khvicha Tsopurachvili (Stade Français) [french-georgian]
Gia Kharaishvili (Racing)
Luka Chelidze (Toulon)
Mikheil Alania (Aurillac)
Nicoloz Kardava (Aurillac)
Irakli Mchedlidze (Aurillac)
Luka Nioradze (Aurillac)
Dachi Papunashvili (Aurillac)
Luka Azariashvili (Biarritz)
Iban Tsouladze (Biarritz) [french-georgian]
Nikoloz Narmania (Carcassonne)
Nugzari Somkhishvili (Carcassonne)
Nika Gvaladze (Grenoble)
Gela Murusidze (Mont de Marsan)
Irakli Umpriani (Nevers)
Aleksi Svianadze (Oyonnax)
Vakhtang Jintcharadze (Perpignan)
Zauri Tevdorashvili (Angoulême)

Germany
Michel Himmer (La Rochelle)
Oskar Rixen (Stade Français)

Japan
Hiroki Taguchi (Vannes)

Netherlands
Tyren Kroos (Agen)
Dave Koelman (Brive)
Ranger van Eerten (Brive)
Hugo Huurman (Aurillac)
Jade Plane (Oyonnax)
Bart Wierenga (Valence)
Monty Leverstein (Narbonne)
Daily Limmen (Narbonne)
Maximilien Zerdoun (Narbonne)

Portugal
Celso Mateus (Carcassonne)
Jose Duarte Madeira (Grenoble)

Romania
Luigi Ostoni (Bayonne) [italian-romanian]
Virgil Ghenea (Aurillac)
Alexandru Arnautu (Rouen)

Russia
Luc Brocas (Narbonne) [french-russian]

Samoa
Levi Milford (Carcassonne)
Henry Tuilagi jr (Perpignan) [french-samoan]

Spain
Iker Aduriz (Bayonne)
Alex Saleta (Bayonne)
Samuel Ezeala (Clermont)
Martin Alonso (La Rochelle)
Joël Merkler (Toulouse)
Gorbei Allende (Biarritz)
Kerman Aurrekoetxea (Biarritz)
Ekain Imaz (Biarritz)
Francesco Prieto (Biarritz)
Lucas Santamaria (Biarritz)
Matheo Triki (Nevers)

Tonga
Mosaati Moala (Brive) [french-tongian]
Wesley Tapueluelu (Brive)
Vaea Tutuila (Pau)

Ukraine
Mykola Kovalenko (Oyonnax)

USA
David Ainu'u (Toulouse)
Nafi Ma'afu (Perpignan)

[Eednud]

Two Pasifika teams granted provisional licenses to join Super Rugby next year.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/04/14/breaking-two-pacific-island-teams-given-green-light-to-join-super-rugby-in-2022/

[peasy23]

[afca32]

I've been watching Darge for about 5 years and he is absolutely brilliant. As the captain of one our most competitive ever u20 teams last year he should really have played a lot more for Embra by now, but a combination of injuries, ludicrous strength in depth in his position and most importantly Cockerill being highly reluctant to pick young players have held him back. Glasgow should be a good fit for him and if he can get back on track he'll be a regular starter pretty quickly I'd expect.

[John Lambies Doos]

Is there relegation from the English prem this year?. Looking at it Worcester are odds on to go down, quite worrying considering DVM has signed for them

[ajwffc]

5 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

Is there relegation from the English prem this year?. Looking at it Worcester are odds on to go down, quite worrying considering DVM has signed for them

no relegation this year and  none for at least the next 3 seasons 

[ajwffc]

in the rainbow cup they will be using some of the trial laws. 

Captains will be allowed one challenge per game to review try-scoring and foul play up to the 75th minute.
In the last five minutes a captain can challenge any decision, provided he has not made a previous challenge.

When attackers are held up over the try-line, the defending team will drop out from their goal-line.

The rule will also apply to in-goal knock-ons and when defenders ground the ball from attacking kicks.

When a player is sent off, his team will be down to 14 men for 20 minutes before he can be replaced by another player.

I am happy with the captains challenge and the drop out as it rewards good defending. But i don't agree with the sub for a red card as a big point in the red card is as a deterrent for foul play as you team is at a disadvantage(a sub for 2 yellows if none were foul play is different).

 

 

 

[honestly united]

Al Dickinson taking over as scrum coach at Glasgow from next season, hopefully we will see a bit of an improvement up front

[topcat(The most tip top)]

in the rainbow cup they will be using some of the trial laws. 
Captains will be allowed one challenge per game to review try-scoring and foul play up to the 75th minute.
In the last five minutes a captain can challenge any decision, provided he has not made a previous challenge.
When attackers are held up over the try-line, the defending team will drop out from their goal-line.

The rule will also apply to in-goal knock-ons and when defenders ground the ball from attacking kicks.
When a player is sent off, his team will be down to 14 men for 20 minutes before he can be replaced by another player.
I am happy with the captains challenge and the drop out as it rewards good defending. But i don't agree with the sub for a red card as a big point in the red card is as a deterrent for foul play as you team is at a disadvantage(a sub for 2 yellows if none were foul play is different).
 

being a man down for 20 minutes is still a heavy sanction.

There’s currently a huge disparity between the punishment for a red card offence early in the game and one late on. Which isn’t great either

[Jaggy Snake]

I like the in goal drop out for being held up, as it does award good defence, although half the time there's already a penalty advantage in those situations so it won't always affect things.

I'm less convinced about it for grounding an attacking kick in goal, seems an unnecessary change. I can't see it making much difference compared to a 22 drop out anyway, as teams will just try to kick it even longer and the net result won't change a great deal.

I don't agree with the red card replacement but understand trying it out, with the increased number of red cards for head contact.

Edited April 20, 2021 by Jaggy Snake

[Genuine Hibs Fan]

3 minutes ago, Jaggy Snake said:

I like the in goal drop out for being held up, as it does award good defence, although half the time there's already a penalty advantage in those situations so it won't always affect things.

I'm less convinced about it for grounding an attacking kick in goal, seems an unnecessary change. I can't see it making much difference compared to a 22 drop out anyway, as teams will just try to kick it even longer and the net result won't change a great deal.

 

Aye I think it's just balancing the two out. You now get a reward for good defensive play holding someone up, and more of an attacking opportunity for good attacking play that forces someone to touch down behind their goal. That's before it gets massively gamed of course!

[TheScarf]

Tim Visser fair hates the SNP doesn't he? His Twitter account these days is almost exclusively retweeting Unionists slagging them off.

[AberdeenHibee]

Just bought my girlfriend and I the 2021/22 Scotland Season Pass.

Went for the direct debit so seats are guaranteed indefinitely until I cancel.  Might not be quite the same this year, but thinking Scotland Rugby tickets are going to be really hard to get a hold of going forward (already have been past 2-3 years for the big games) given we are getting better and better. 

Can't wait.