Sergeant Wilson Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: If discussions with folk I know are anything to go by, the Arab/Israel conflict is an issue that most folk have a view on but the views are based on relatively little background knowledge. I'm not setting myself up as any kind of middle east expert here; given it's importance, looking back, it was totally ignored when I was in school (mid 60s to mid 70s) and about all I can remember about school "history" would be about the French Revolution and the First World War. I won't suggest for a minute that Wikipedia is the answer to that knowledge deficit but for anyone interested, here's a link to their summary (no doubt folk are working on updates.) - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab–Israeli_conflict I referred a pal of mine to the page - before he saw it, he thought that it all kicked off because of the 6 Day War in 1967. Looking at the Wikipedia entry, it's such a pity that the big guy upstairs wasn't a bit clearer in his real estate allocations. All you need to know is the Israelis are Rangers and the Palestinians are Celtic. Once you get that concept it's dead easy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, Sergeant Wilson said: All you need to know is the Israelis are Rangers and the Palestinians are Celtic. Once you get that concept it's dead easy. I did wonder about my pal's obsession with 1967... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Imagine looking to fairytales to try and enforce your nations’ right to expand its’ borders. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 12 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Over the coming weeks as this plays out we will undoubtedly witness the extreme bias of the MSM some of which will be subtle or unconscious to many. Israeli combatants will be described as ‘soldiers’ whilst Palestinians as ‘militants’ without any recognition of oppressive role the IDF is tasked with. Hamas are already taking hostages while the Israelis take prisoners. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 13 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Over the coming weeks as this plays out we will undoubtedly witness the extreme bias of the MSM some of which will be subtle or unconscious to many. Israeli combatants will be described as ‘soldiers’ whilst Palestinians as ‘militants’ without any recognition of oppressive role the IDF is tasked with. It's terrorists actually. I'm also struggling to remember video interviews on the BBC where Palestinians are able to recount their stories of their neighbours and family being killed or the top 6 stories on the site given over to rocket launches and IDF incursion into Gaza. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 21 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: It's terrorists actually. I'm also struggling to remember video interviews on the BBC where Palestinians are able to recount their stories of their neighbours and family being killed or the top 6 stories on the site given over to rocket launches and IDF incursion into Gaza. I’m struggling to understand this post. Would you like to elucidate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 He's agreeing with you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said: All you need to know is the Israelis are Rangers and the Palestinians are Celtic. Once you get that concept it's dead easy. The Israelis will be struggling today after Rangers banner was focused on affairs in Ibrox and not a message of support. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I’m struggling to understand this post. Would you like to elucidate? 32 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: He's agreeing with you. OK. I must be struggling today as I have read it again and still don’t comprehend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: OK. I must be struggling today as I have read it again and still don’t comprehend. Time for your nap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Israel formally declare war, instead of just bombing and killing without declaring war. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr. Brightside said: Israel formally declare war, instead of just bombing and killing without declaring war. Welp. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mr. Brightside said: Israel formally declare war, instead of just bombing and killing without declaring war. Personally the death and destruction wasn’t ever an issue, the lack of proper admin was, now that’s sorted all is ok 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 53 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: He's agreeing with you. I never thought I would agree with vT about anything, but he encapsulated it perfectly with a post that he was quoted in earlier. The whole thing is utterly futile & Israel have become everything they have had to defend themselves against for Centuries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) Well, that’s some American citizens being reported as dead. US saying it will try to verify these deaths first, and then “make sure Israel has what it needs”. Also, has Palestine been solely referred to as Gaza before in the news? Or is this a new thing? Haven’t seen the nation been referred to by its name once in the headlines. Edited October 8, 2023 by SweeperDee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 This would have never happened if Donald Trump was still president. Spoiler According to Donald Trump, anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, 101 said: The Israelis will be struggling today after Rangers banner was focused on affairs in Ibrox and not a message of support. Wha’s in cherge of Israel? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Being absolutely bombarded by Israeli government propaganda on YouTube all day - seems like every advert is stark messages about how they're under attack and need support, underscored by footage of mangled bodies and crying children. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, BFTD said: Being absolutely bombarded by Israeli government propaganda on YouTube all day - seems like every advert is stark messages about how they're under attack and need support, underscored by footage of mangled bodies and crying children. Yup, shite from Channels/Profiles I’ve never had an incline of looking at, suddenly popping up all over the place on pretty much every platform. Utter nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Just now, BFTD said: Being absolutely bombarded by Israeli government propaganda on YouTube all day - seems like every advert is stark messages about how they're under attack and need support, underscored by footage of mangled bodies and crying children. One of the massively promoted social media posts was from something like. Truth News, or something equally crazy talking about how Israel are the peaceful side in all this or some equal nonsense. Proper Cheryl Cole moment. War is stupid, 2 state solution needed, however is impossible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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