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Posts posted by Andy groundhopper
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Congratulations to all Scottish non league clubs on getting the season up and running, obviously not 100% sticking to guidelines I'd guess - bit like everyone on the streets and in shops. Just be sensible eh. Down south fans don't do distancing and Id bet they're sat together in the clubhouses. Hopefully some fans will be allowed back in sooner rather than later, if the fear is there, don't take the (slight) risk then. County lge for me yesterday Patchway 3 Frampton United 2.
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Guess that any clubs Inc Darvel who wins the league, gets licensed and possible promotion won't give 2 if it's claimed a tainted league etc. Looking forward to seeing some streaming games if I can , good luck everyone.
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Chaotic times with everyone getting blamed, clubs in abeyance did the right thing - clubs who play are ' spreading the plague'/black death by all accounts. Can think the only reason to not play would be financially based, can understand that up to a point. Think my biggest argument is watching football v going shopping, cinema, theatre etc - I know where the biggest threat is imo. I know people who have died, but sometimes the fear factor has to be tempered slightly. Good luck to all clubs playing, a gamble I know.
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Shouldn't be too harsh on the spfl chaps, nothing mentioned about this down south either, after the pathetic ending to last season from the EFL down to non league with the non-promotions etc. Think folk expect miracles sometimes, they're being consistently incompetent, no one's surprised.
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Only saying this as an outsider looking in, but I reckon the pyramid is a brilliant move, (forcing) clubs to do long overdue ground upgrades etc. I know that some graders get annoyed,but what were the benefits of 'staying junior' ? Think the next thing to come from the hardworking WOSFL is what they will do IF we have another incomplete season. Keep up the good work, plenty of volunteers waiting to help it seems.
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8 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said:
There are clubs in this set up with SIX figure annual wage bills. Others that pay expenses only.
Based on say an 18 man squad and management, that's a pretty high number. Heard of clubs down in Bristol (step 5/6) having a weekly budget of £2,000 getting under 200 through the gate at £6 a head. Must be generous sponsors eh.
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25 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:
You're not comparing like with like.
Meant the restrictions across the North West of England and was just glad to see that a League was putting a plan B into place - rather than last season's farcical endings. Think every league in England & Scotland faces difficult times and decisions ahead, hope the Scots can get back to watching games asap.
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Maybe it depends on whether the League's believe the game can be replayed - possibly award the points, but not fine the club involved, not really their faults is it ? Saw in today's NLP that the Northern Premier Lge are thinking of using an alternative fixture list IF the lockdown and restrictions up north go on too long.
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Looks like enough people get to watch from the outside , know plenty of fans who somehow get in - beyond my skills in afraid. Maybe a fake photographer/newspaper pass is required, along with a big camera
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Am ever hopeful that fans can come back in 2021, in decent numbers too. Guess that most clubs did the maths and were hoping fans would be back by November/December. If anyone knows, what sort of money are clubs talking about , £50 - £100 a game ? or more than that ? Helps to understand what clubs actually require every week just to keep going.
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5 hours ago, AlanCamelonfan said:
No fans allowed it will be committee members
Thanks, my hopes dashed ! Can't understand why low level non league can't have fans back , Sturgeon going safety mad. Was at Cribbs 2 Brislington 0 yesterday, att 86 no problems whatsoever. We've had games p-p followed by 2 wks isolation but things are still happening. Always going to be cases until the virus departs, just be sensible.
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Going by the highlights are the fans allowed into the EOS games in limited numbers ? Time to contact easyJet and make my way north ! Good to see some games up and running in Scotland amid the chaos.
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All systems go then, get the fixtures done and get the fans back in by 2021, am guessing the clubs geographic location always makes the formations difficult - now it's all Senior you have to do a bit more travelling, though this season could have been a bit more regional just to help. Hopefully the possible sanctions that I read on here, will stop any more clubs shutting down for the winter.
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If the numbers don't go through the roof, and the winter doesn't kill us all off, I'm guessing that fans will be back at low level football in January albeit with restrictions in place. Not having the evidence my lord, what sort of money is changing hands across Scottish non league football ? £100 a week £200 a week ? Be interesting to know how the clubs will survive.
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Looking in from down south, many good ideas with leagues trying their best to get going. My only question is about the SFA, is this a biggish organisation or just two old guys with a typewriter trying to blunder their way through ? Seem dead set in their ways trying to protect the Old Guard
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Sounds brilliant news, some of the precast standing either end of the stand would be great. Maybe fans could sponsor a seat just to raise funds , never managed to see KRR yet, can't wait to get up there. Sounds like the community is really positive too, hope it works out.
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48 minutes ago, Stag Nation said:
No, sanctions apply only after the four-week stage, i.e. 14th November.
Would be a big decision then, agree to start the season and then realise that it's gonna be one hell of a job. Covid19 makes life difficult but the sanctions look a decent threat to clubs, guess the contracts and paying players is really going to threaten some clubs ? unless they have a rich sugar daddy of course. Just wildly out of interest, could there be a League below for teams to reform, or is that the amateurs ?
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Shame that with so many clubs committed to starting and hopefully finishing the season, that the promotion and relegation places couldn't be agreed. Don't wish to go against any club, maybe the guaranteed return to the same divisions in 21/22 was a mistake. Give every club something to play for in these difficult times. No doubt the WOS will take a few years to settle down into a pattern.
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Maybe my mind is scrambled by all the goings on - but is there a blanket coverage on no promotion across all leagues, or is this just in the WOSFL ? Could be a big chance for so called smaller clubs to grab the opportunity, before some normality returns.
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Haven't seen anything definite yet, but are the promotions, relegations and play offs dependant on every league completing its current season ? Or are there loads of rules with prefix A,B,C etc ? Can only imagine the clubs who carry on playing, must believe there is something to be gained - apart from the glory of being called champions.
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Would hope that clubs make the sensible decision whether to carry on this season, almost a non-season already, so clubs would be justified in trying to survive in readiness for 21/22 when things may be close to normality. All dependant on whether this season sees any promotions and relegations, as to clubs taking a (dangerous) gamble.
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5 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:
...the real problem would be the in for a pint part but the SG in their infinite wisdom opened up the significantly higher risk part of the equation and kept the significantly lower risk one closed off.
Correct, again fans almost demanding that a restart has to be like the old days - can't anyone last a couple of hours without ? ? Managed to see a Western League game again, Portishead 1 Lebeq 1 att 75+ with no masks, drinks coming from the clubhouse, no real distancing required with a small crowd. Took your name and number on way in, hand sanitizer on entry. Looks like more chaos in Scotland, if fans can't get back in by December at latest, is it worth playing the games ? Ever hopeful.
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Let's say that IF players get their MAIN income from playing football rather than working etc, then consider them professional, but give all the others a fighting chance. Not being privy to such details but are the Scottish politicians anti football at all ? The virus came, and the virus will go sometime, are they waiting for that point in time ?
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Chaotic in Scotland again, hope things are better down here in England with the petition to get fans back now totalling 150,000 Got a feeling that even the National Leagues will get at least some fans back in. About time we had a politician for non league football, who knows about the game. If it meant getting votes they'd soon be interested. Hope some games go ahead this weekend, are they all BCD ?
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Uproar over the National League handouts, the bigger clubs moaning like normal. Think they tried to base the money on average home gates or something like that, I thought that was sensible. English FA say clubs can't go from tier 3 to another tier 3, or from 3 to 2. Good to see so many games in the NW and NE of England getting played. More difficult in Scotland when players are travelling or are based away from their clubs.