SirJimmyofNic Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Always thought all these interwoven companys would come back to bite our arse one day, seems like the time has arrived 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, SirJimmyofNic said: Always thought all these interwoven companys would come back to bite our arse one day, seems like the time has arrived I think its mostly just being a financial basket case that's come back to get us, not the byzantine corporate structure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baillieinleeds Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 21 hours ago, TxRover said: I’m a mean one… Tx the Krampus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Scary Bear said: Airdrie had to kill Clydebank. Only footballing royalty like Rangers get immediately voted back into the league structure. We might have to go EoSFL. Is it wrong to be mildly excited by that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Enigma said: Honestly think it would be quite good fun starting again in the EOSFL and climbing our way back up. Ha, I'm not the only one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Double Jack D said: Is it wrong to be mildly excited by that... EoSFL? Bit of a saturated market for Fife teams. Or do you fancy killing another club with league status? I’d rather stay in the SPFL, preferably Championship or higher. Ideally we’d have some people in charge who love the club and have the time, principles, and talent to make us a well run and sustainable club. I won’t hold my breath. Edited December 23, 2022 by Scary Bear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Scary Bear said: EoSFL? Bit of a saturated market for Fife teams. Or do you fancy killing another club with league status? I’d rather stay in the SPFL, preferably Championship or higher. Ideally we’d have some people in charge who love the club and have the time, principles, and talent to make us a well run and sustainable club. I won’t hold my breath. Willie Gray has done that, sent Ballingry Rovers down the shitter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ro Sham Bo said: Any buyer won't be paying for the debt though, they'll be taking it on. So it could be that the £3 million price mentioned includes taking on £2 million of debt and then another £1 million for whatever assets (tangible or otherwise) the club may have. This is the unknown. Quite a lot of it is due to Sim - is the sale price essentially him getting his money back and then that part of it will be cleared? Nobody knows. I am struggling to think why someone would buy the club knowing they still owe John Sim the best part of £1m. Of course, the money due to other directors/previous directors will remain regardless. Edited December 23, 2022 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Ro Sham Bo said: Any buyer won't be paying for the debt though, they'll be taking it on. So it could be that the £3 million price mentioned includes taking on £2 million of debt and then another £1 million for whatever assets (tangible or otherwise) the club may have. I suspect the the player contracts, are probably valued in excess of £1M of debt too. While the contracts are technically debts owned to creditors, they aren’t owed by SPP but the Club, and I didn’t see any accounting for those in the two filings, so it might be a third entity or a different accounting method that covers them. The assets of the Club are accounted for and balanced against assets at an unachievable price. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 52 minutes ago, Scary Bear said: Ideally we’d have some people in charge who love the club and have the time, principles, and talent to make us a well run and sustainable club. I won’t hold my breath. The problem with this part of the statement is: -People with time tend to come in two forms; retirees of some manner, who have their own ideas about how stuff should be done and don’t tend to listen to people in the business and grifters. -People with principles, true, honest and proper principles, are nearly as rare as hens teeth and tend to be fiercely loyal. That means our best hope here is probably already affiliated. -People with (true) talent could be even rarer than those with principles. What we would ideally seek is a local resident/ex-resident who seeks to buy the Club to establish it as a stable and revenue neutral Community Club that can play in the second and third tier of Scottish football…sounds a lot like John Sim…who is willing to put football people in charge and still maintain a gimlet eye on spending, expenses and revenues, either personally or via a hatchet person installed in the Organization. That’s at tall order…Plan B is a white knight looking for a club to develop talent in the area, but that’s the Pars model and is still untested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Scary Bear said: EoSFL? Bit of a saturated market for Fife teams. Or do you fancy killing another club with league status? I’d rather stay in the SPFL, preferably Championship or higher. Ideally we’d have some people in charge who love the club and have the time, principles, and talent to make us a well run and sustainable club. I won’t hold my breath. Id settle for a new stadium lol. Don't know what is more realistic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Scary Bear said: EoSFL? Bit of a saturated market for Fife teams. Or do you fancy killing another club with league status? I’d rather stay in the SPFL, preferably Championship or higher. Ideally we’d have some people in charge who love the club and have the time, principles, and talent to make us a well run and sustainable club. I won’t hold my breath. 1 hour ago, Double Jack D said: Id settle for a new stadium lol. Don't know what is more realistic We could put the Shippy to the sword and develop Recreation Park, eh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 Heard tonight that Big John won’t be back after Christmas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 If he is unable to get game time when we are so painfully lacking any sort of presence up front, then I think that is the only sensible outcome. A signing we all really wanted to work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Murray had to take a punt on a striker, was worth a go. It hasn't worked out, best for all parties if that is indeed the case. Hopefully it stops the "Why has he got a 6ft 8 striker on the bench" shouts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) We just have to hope the next punt works out better. We also need another wide option if Ross is going to be perma-crocked. We can't try and ride out the season on the back of a classy midfield and decent centre backs. Edited December 24, 2022 by renton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted December 24, 2022 Author Share Posted December 24, 2022 To be totally honest, we could do with Ethan Ross off the wage bill. He will be on a good wage alongside his long contract and we are getting very little return from him. If he’s injured for the season that’s a total fucker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: To be totally honest, we could do with Ethan Ross off the wage bill. He will be on a good wage alongside his long contract and we are getting very little return from him. If he’s injured for the season that’s a total fucker. I agree, and at the risk of being harsh, I'd add Gullan to that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 Big John must be poor in training if he can't even get on last night for a game played in a howling gale where both keepers looked vulnerable. In fairness he looked absolutly lost away at Arbroath amd we haven't really seen him since. We'll probably be paying him for the rest of the season as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpy Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 We need to be looking around the lower leagues, for instance there's a 21 year old banging the goals in for Bo'ness. Tiwi daramola. Yeah, no experience at championship level, but who knows?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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