The New Raith Rovers Thread

[raith1974]

I'm sure with plastic pitches that big grants are available to clubs wanting to install. We genereate no money during the week, so raising some from a plastic pitch can only benefit the club. The club also wouldn't have to pay for training facilites and could train on the pitch.

[Whistle Blower]

Do we still have a manager as the BBC said the hearts team will meet their new management team tomorrow.

McGlynn has no chance of being the Hearts manager

[Whistle Blower]

We need away from Stark's Park to a new stadium that is capable of bringing money in throughout the week and not just on match days.

There's a decent business to be had at the core of Raith Rovers and most clubs like us but until we have other facilities to supplement the match day revenue, that potential will lie dormant.

Not too sure about that, we need to sweat our assets at SP more.

There is governmental funding out there for 'green' energy production, surely our old pal Gordon can hlep us get the funding to install solar panels on top of the stands, and create a rsustainable evenue stream for the club.

[Hank Scorpio]

Airdrie away - i'll no bother.

[Michael W]

I doubt I'll be able to go either due to lack of funds.

However, it's an excellent chance for us to progress to the next round. I'm very glad we've managed to avoid the first division teams that were unseeded.

[CALDERON]

Oh for f**k sake.

[Scary Bear]

Not too sure about that, we need to sweat our assets at SP more.

There is governmental funding out there for 'green' energy production, surely our old pal Gordon can hlep us get the funding to install solar panels on top of the stands, and create a rsustainable evenue stream for the club.

Good shout. However, the photo-voltaic panels that generate electricity have to be south facing and at a certain angle (think it's 30 or 40 degrees) for maximum efficiency. How does that work with our stands? I'm imaging the South Stand and bits of the Main Stand could be used.

What about mobile phone masts. Do we already have them on the roofs of the stand?

[Rovers_Lad]

Good shout. However, the photo-voltaic panels that generate electricity have to be south facing and at a certain angle (think it's 30 or 40 degrees) for maximum efficiency. How does that work with our stands? I'm imaging the South Stand and bits of the Main Stand could be used.

Solar panels

What about mobile phone masts. Do we already have them on the roofs of the stand?

We do.

[Scary Bear]

Solar panels

We do.

We do get sunshine occasionally in the east of Scotland. The Met Office website notes: Eastern Scotland includes the sunniest places in Scotland, these being on the coast of Fife where the average is about 1500 hours per year.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/es/print.html

The electricity companies were paying 50p/kWh for 'feed in tariffs'. Given the amount of roof space we have sitting doing nothing, it might be something to look into, seen as there are grants available and the electricity companies will even just pay you to rent your roof space.

[Rovers_Lad]

Has to be the right solar panels

Rogue salesmen are attempting to hoodwink householders into installing solar panels with promises of massive savings on energy bills.

Special incentives give householders around £700 a year for electricity they generate. Almost 9,500 households received £182,059 between April 1 and June 30, 2010, by generating their own electricity, according to regulator Ofgem.

But critics warn many consumers are being misled over how the schemes work and how much money they can save.

An investigation by Which? earlier this year concluded that the solar thermal panel industry is blighted by mis-selling.

Ten out of 14 solar thermal panel companies made misleading claims about how much money a customer could save, and many used high-pressure selling techniques such as large discounts for signing up immediately.

Tim Weisselberg, at The Centre For Sustainable Energy, says: 'There are many cowboys over-charging for solar panels and more are bound to crop up in the coming months.'

Which? says misleading claims about solar thermal panels usually exaggerate how effective they actually are.

What you need to know

There are two types of solar panels:

• Solar PV converts sunlight into electricity. These cost about £12,000 to install but can save £120 per year and make a further £800 a year from selling power back the the National Grid.

• Solar thermal panels convert energy from the sun to heat water. These cost about £4,000 and save about 10% on your gas bill, or £55 per year.

It is solar PV panels that are the focus of attention because they generate electricity which can be sold back to energy companies via a special 'feed-in' tariff.

These tariffs were introduced in April 2010 to provide financial incentives for people to generate their own electricity, usually using solar panels or wind turbines.

The scheme was devised by the Government, but paid for by energy suppliers via a levy on all bills. Households are paid for the electricity they generate, whether or not they use it themselves. The standard rate is up to 41.3p per kilowatt hour (kWh) for electricity generated (known as the 'generation tariff') and an extra 3p per kWh for any energy that is not used and is sold back to the grid (the 'export tariff').

All generation and export tariffs last for 25 years and are linked to the retail prices index (RPI) to ensure payments increase with inflation. households could save around £920 per year, according to the Energy Saving Trust.

This is made up of £770 per year from the generation tariff, £30 per year from the export tariff and a £120 per year reduction in current electricity bills.

The average household uses about 4,500 kWh of electricity every year and solar PV panels usually generate about 40% of this, or 1,850 kWh per year. But because much of the electricity will be generated on sunny days when you don't use it, around half (925 kWh) of this production is likely to be sold back.

The average solar panel installation is 2.2 kilowatts, which has an average output of 5 kWh per day, depending on the weather. Panels will generate some electricity on a cloudy day, but work best in summer.

Individual households will receive the generation and export tariffs from their electricity supplier, normally every quarter. Experts say households would normally make their money back on the cost of solar panels within about 15 years, and would continue to profit from the feed-in tariff for a further ten years.

Energy suppliers pay for feed-in tariffs by adding about £8.50 to every household bill between 2011 and 2030, at a total cost of £6.7bn to consumers.

A spokesman for British Gas says: 'Buying solar panels is one of the best investments around - the feed-in tariff is tax-free, index-linked and guaranteed by the Government.'

[Scary Bear]

Has to be the right solar panels

Rogue salesmen are attempting to hoodwink householders into installing solar panels with promises of massive savings on energy bills.

Special incentives give householders around £700 a year for electricity they generate. Almost 9,500 households received £182,059 between April 1 and June 30, 2010, by generating their own electricity, according to regulator Ofgem.

But critics warn many consumers are being misled over how the schemes work and how much money they can save.

An investigation by Which? earlier this year concluded that the solar thermal panel industry is blighted by mis-selling.

Ten out of 14 solar thermal panel companies made misleading claims about how much money a customer could save, and many used high-pressure selling techniques such as large discounts for signing up immediately.

Tim Weisselberg, at The Centre For Sustainable Energy, says: 'There are many cowboys over-charging for solar panels and more are bound to crop up in the coming months.'

Which? says misleading claims about solar thermal panels usually exaggerate how effective they actually are.

What you need to know

There are two types of solar panels:

• Solar PV converts sunlight into electricity. These cost about £12,000 to install but can save £120 per year and make a further £800 a year from selling power back the the National Grid.

• Solar thermal panels convert energy from the sun to heat water. These cost about £4,000 and save about 10% on your gas bill, or £55 per year.

It is solar PV panels that are the focus of attention because they generate electricity which can be sold back to energy companies via a special 'feed-in' tariff.

These tariffs were introduced in April 2010 to provide financial incentives for people to generate their own electricity, usually using solar panels or wind turbines.

The scheme was devised by the Government, but paid for by energy suppliers via a levy on all bills. Households are paid for the electricity they generate, whether or not they use it themselves. The standard rate is up to 41.3p per kilowatt hour (kWh) for electricity generated (known as the 'generation tariff') and an extra 3p per kWh for any energy that is not used and is sold back to the grid (the 'export tariff').

All generation and export tariffs last for 25 years and are linked to the retail prices index (RPI) to ensure payments increase with inflation. households could save around £920 per year, according to the Energy Saving Trust.

This is made up of £770 per year from the generation tariff, £30 per year from the export tariff and a £120 per year reduction in current electricity bills.

The average household uses about 4,500 kWh of electricity every year and solar PV panels usually generate about 40% of this, or 1,850 kWh per year. But because much of the electricity will be generated on sunny days when you don't use it, around half (925 kWh) of this production is likely to be sold back.

The average solar panel installation is 2.2 kilowatts, which has an average output of 5 kWh per day, depending on the weather. Panels will generate some electricity on a cloudy day, but work best in summer.

Individual households will receive the generation and export tariffs from their electricity supplier, normally every quarter. Experts say households would normally make their money back on the cost of solar panels within about 15 years, and would continue to profit from the feed-in tariff for a further ten years.

Energy suppliers pay for feed-in tariffs by adding about £8.50 to every household bill between 2011 and 2030, at a total cost of £6.7bn to consumers.

A spokesman for British Gas says: 'Buying solar panels is one of the best investments around - the feed-in tariff is tax-free, index-linked and guaranteed by the Government.'

The last line of whichever article you've plagiarised says it all.

A bit of research into which panels to go for and we're away. How many square meters of roof space do we have on top of the stands? How much of it is south facing?

http://www.solarcentury.co.uk/about-us/

Edited August 3, 2011 by Scary Bear

[sonicsco]

see the Ayr cup game has been changed to cappielow http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/news/article/ramsdens-cup-fixture-amendment/

[Rovers_Lad]

The last line of whichever article you've plagiarised says it all.

What gives you that impression?

A bit of research into which panels to go for and we're away. How many square meters of roof space do we have on top of the stands? How much of it is south facing?

http://www.solarcentury.co.uk/about-us/

Can`t help on square meterage of roof space,f**k all on google about that

[RoversMad]

Only the south stand roof is south facing, but you need a pitch of around 30-45 degree which is more like your house roof, this is probably why clubs don't have solar panels

[pantene proV]

Can't we just take out the seats of the North Stand and put panels there? No c**t is gonnae use them this season anyway

[Scary Bear]

Only the south stand roof is south facing, but you need a pitch of around 30-45 degree which is more like your house roof, this is probably why clubs don't have solar panels

I think the bottom of the 'L' of the Main Stand is also south facing. We can get brackets made up to get the correct angle on the South Stand if required. The 30-45 degree angle is for greatest efficiency. They would still produce electricity if not at quite the right angle. Stick a couple of wind turbines up there while we're at it. We'll be a greener club than Celtic or Hibs in no time

[Scary Bear]

Can't we just take out the seats of the North Stand and put panels there? No c**t is gonnae use them this season anyway

Sounds like a plan. Or we could just move the home fans to the North Stand so we can occasionally see direct sunlight. You would get rickets if you lived in that South Stand. I hate watching all the away fans basking in the sun on a nice day. Still, swings and roundabouts, I suppose they also get the icy blast of the wind of the sea on some of the winter days.

[Whistle Blower]

Only the south stand roof is south facing, but you need a pitch of around 30-45 degree which is more like your house roof, this is probably why clubs don't have solar panels

Probably more to do with Bill Barr building tissue paper roofs.

The whole solar panel thing is about pissing with the cock we've got, rather than we can do x,y or z if we have a new stadium.

We don't have one, we will more than likely never have one so lets stop wasting energy going down that route.

[Raith1]

Any one heard any rumors as to who the loan signing(s) may be and if a player from Hearts, will it still go ahead with them getting a new manager?

[HoBNob]

I think the bottom of the 'L' of the Main Stand is also south facing. We can get brackets made up to get the correct angle on the South Stand if required. The 30-45 degree angle is for greatest efficiency. They would still produce electricity if not at quite the right angle. Stick a couple of wind turbines up there while we're at it. We'll be a greener club than Celtic or Hibs in no time

Wind turbines are pointless, or rather they are if you put them on top of roofs.