Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, Bold Rover said: I acknowledge that I'm in a minority here. But a sport where the object is to injure your opponent's brain, abhors me. You never watched Hearts under Craig Levein? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Rover Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, Empty It said: 24 minutes ago, Bold Rover said: I acknowledge that I'm in a minority here. But a sport where the object is to injure your opponent's brain, abhors me. So what is your opinion on other contact sports rugby, hockey or American football for example. In most sports, injury is a risk. In boxing, it is the object. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bold Rover Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, NJ2 said: That’s not the objective though and the reason the wear gloves, not allowed to headbutt, elbow or knee in the head A knockout, the objective in boxing, is a brain injury. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: You never watched Hearts under Craig Levein? Or when he played? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 In most sports, injury is a risk. In boxing, it is the object.Fair enough 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 A knockout, the objective in boxing, is a brain injury.Most often, folk aren’t actually knocked out in boxing. There’s very few boxers aim to do lasting injury to their opponent. I do completely accept your viewpoint on it though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 The idea that boxers want to do this is utterly ridiculous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 13 hours ago, throbber said: I imagine you as a slightly more aggressive version of Super Hans. I've only just started the program so outside of Sophie and Toni, I have no idea who any of the characters names are (you daft c**t.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 11 hours ago, NJ2 said: That’s not the objective though and the reason the wear gloves, not allowed to headbutt, elbow or knee in the head Gloves are more likely to cause brain injuries tho' as it allows you to attack the head with power. You can't do that with an uncovered first or ye'll break the bones in your hand. Bare knuckle boxing is almost entirely about body shots for this reason and is a lot less dangerous* than Queensbury Rules. *subjective: a lot more injuries but a lot less deaths 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Gloves are more likely to cause brain injuries tho' as it allows you to attack the head with power. You can't do that with an uncovered first or ye'll break the bones in your hand. Bare knuckle boxing is almost entirely about body shots for this reason and is a lot less dangerous* than Queensbury Rules. *subjective: a lot more injuries but a lot less deaths I knew that would come up; my argument is that if the only objective of boxing was to cause pain and suffering to the opponent then they wouldn’t wear gloves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, NJ2 said: I knew that would come up; my argument is that if the only objective of boxing was to cause pain and suffering to the opponent then they wouldn’t wear gloves. Yeah but that argument is back to front. The gloves aren't there to protect the opponent. They are there to allow you to hit someone in the head as hard as you can. FWIW I like boxing but let's not pretend the objective is anything but harming your opponent without getting hurt yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 When you strip boxing back to the bare bones it's pretty barbaric but let's not pretend those getting hurt are unwilling participants being thrust into the ring. Battering your opponent is only 50% of it, the other 50% is avoiding getting battered yourself. I enjoy it but totally understand why some people detest it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dee Man said: When you strip boxing back to the bare bones it's pretty barbaric but let's not pretend those getting hurt are unwilling participants being thrust into the ring. Battering your opponent is only 50% of it, the other 50% is avoiding getting battered yourself. I enjoy it but totally understand why some people detest it. @Shandon Par, some invaluable coaching tips there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Only a very small number of people actually like boxing, the majority of people who watch it are doing it for an excuse to stay up late taking coke or are trying to appear masculine for other people to see.The lads lads lads sitting up the back of a pub pretending to punch each other because they're coked out their face, worst people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Only a very small number of people actually like boxing, the majority of people who watch it are doing it for an excuse to stay up late taking coke or are trying to appear masculine for other people to see.I think the only time I’ve ever watched it has been in a pub. I’ve never really been a big fan of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, throbber said: Only a very small number of people actually like boxing, the majority of people who watch it are doing it for an excuse to stay up late taking coke or are trying to appear masculine for other people to see. My missus loves watching boxing and if she's taking coke she's never offered me f**k all yet plus she's only about 75% masculine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Perkin Flump said: @Shandon Par, some invaluable coaching tips there. Noted. Cheers! I can clearly remember the sound - like a big clang - more than pain, of the hardest few shots I’ve taken. People tend to be dropped far more in sparring from body shots. They go down in a variety of ways. Sometimes it’s a straight collapse, like the twin towers. Other times there’s a delayed reaction. You see the person’s eyes change and they realise they can’t breathe and sort of keel over. Someone ruptured a tendon punching me once. Whisked him straight to A&E. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Noted. Cheers! I can clearly remember the sound - like a big clang - more than pain, of the hardest few shots I’ve taken. People tend to be dropped far more in sparring from body shots. They go down in a variety of ways. Sometimes it’s a straight collapse, like the twin towers. Other times there’s a delayed reaction. You see the person’s eyes change and they realise they can’t breathe and sort of keel over. Someone ruptured a tendon punching me once. Whisked him straight to A&E.The limited sparring with mates I’ve done, I don’t remember being hurt by being hit in the head. It’s more like a strong push that your head gets. Body shots can be unpleasant though. Obviously I’ve never been down because I’m hard as nails (and it’s just with mates, we’re not going 100% and will give each other a chance to recompose if need be) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 25 minutes ago, Dee Man said: My missus loves watching boxing and if she's taking coke she's never offered me f**k all yet plus she's only about 75% masculine. Wid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, throbber said: Shandon Par, a poster who brags about going to St Andrews university like it’s a badge of honour and uses words like “piquant” and “vignette” on a football forum is as classic example of someone pretending to like boxing to make up for his lack of masculinity. I've taught you so many big words and this is how you treat me you ungrateful abydocomist. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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