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10 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said:

One player you signed for decent cash never played a game though and that surely was the bods decision not mcglynn. You can argue all day over the rights and wrongs of mcglynn putting him to your board as a possible signing but they okayed it and then refused to let him kick a ball. Whilst most of us agree he should never have been signed in the first place once the bod has agreed to sign him it's not the managers fault hes not allowed to play him yet the cash is out his budget surely.

My point is more that the board were prepare to pay cash for a player - regardless of suitability - and the intention was to get us "over the line".  So you could argue that manager was well backed, so 5th place is pretty disappointing. 

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23 minutes ago, CALDERON said:

My point is more that the board were prepare to pay cash for a player - regardless of suitability - and the intention was to get us "over the line".  So you could argue that manager was well backed, so 5th place is pretty disappointing. 

Well backed but not allowed to play the player he spent the cash on😂.  Surely if he'd been allowed to play goodwillie or had been told no you must sign another player with that money then he may well have at least got you in the playoffs. 

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1 hour ago, CALDERON said:

Don't want to derail this thread too much with Rovers talk, but for me its all relative.  We finished 3rd last season, which was better than many of us thought, but at Xmas time this season we were in a title challenge.  When we beat Kilmarnock on 18 Dec we went something like 5 points clear of them.  We spend money on 2 different players this season (unheard of for Rovers) which more than likely came into 6 figures.  We went from being 5 points clear of Kilmarnock in December, to 17 points behind them on Friday.  The absolute least should have been a playoff spot this season.

That's not to say that Rovers have some devine right to be in the Premiership, but it's not a wild ambition to at least be competing for that prize - and the resource has been made available to aim for that this season.  Also, Livi, Hamilton and ICT have all spent time in the top flight or are still there - and our attendances are better than 2 of them and comparable with another.  I'm sure there are some creative accounting going on somewhere, but can't rule that out at Starks Park either :lol:

 

 

So a pretty major decline in the latter half of the season…….something we know rather well…….but yours came about under John McGlynn…….a collapse that would have seen him pilloried if he were the FFC manager….and then DG as the icing on the cake.

Yet this is the manager many FFC supporters want as the next Falkirk manager. Anyone else get the irony here?

He has hardly established RR as a Championship side. If that were the case, he wouldn’t have been manager in L1 twice. He has ups and he has downs. 7th to 2nd was creditable, but slide the lens along one year, and 2nd to 7th doesn’t look so great.

Anyhoo, if he is the chosen one, I am sure he will get the time and space to do what needs to be done……..or not.

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27 minutes ago, Duncan Freemason said:

So a pretty major decline in the latter half of the season…….something we know rather well…….but yours came about under John McGlynn…….a collapse that would have seen him pilloried if he were the FFC manager….and then DG as the icing on the cake.

Yet this is the manager many FFC supporters want as the next Falkirk manager. Anyone else get the irony here?

He has hardly established RR as a Championship side. If that were the case, he wouldn’t have been manager in L1 twice. He has ups and he has downs. 7th to 2nd was creditable, but slide the lens along one year, and 2nd to 7th doesn’t look so great.

Anyhoo, if he is the chosen one, I am sure he will get the time and space to do what needs to be done……..or not.

He's never been relegated with Raith either though.  He gets then in the championship moves on to a bigger club then someone else relegates them he comes back in and gets them back up again . It's not his fault his successors are bloody useless.

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15 hours ago, Shadwell Dog said:

With mcglynn and Murray out of contract in the summer I'm sure either them or their agents will have spoken to any interested parties . They aren't going to wait till the end of the season and have nothing in the pipeline although Murray obviously has the safety of being wanted at Airdrie so will be in no rush.  Very few deals will happen exactly according to the rules. You just don't do it so blatantly badly as we did with McKinnon.

If they are in the last 6 months of their contract can their agents/representatives not speak to other clubs regarding them, or is that just allowed for players? 

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56 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said:

He's never been relegated with Raith either though.  He gets then in the championship moves on to a bigger club then someone else relegates them he comes back in and gets them back up again . It's not his fault his successors are bloody useless.

Been on holiday for a week and taken a break from all things Falkirk FC which was great. I’ve only read a couple of pages but I’m assuming with the level of chat around McGlynn he’s the new boards preferred candidate ??

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11 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:

Been on holiday for a week and taken a break from all things Falkirk FC which was great. I’ve only read a couple of pages but I’m assuming with the level of chat around McGlynn he’s the new boards preferred candidate ??

Possibly.

Although it's been discussed whether anything posted on a forum is truth or bo**ocks!

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1 hour ago, Duncan Freemason said:

He has hardly established RR as a Championship side. If that were the case, he wouldn’t have been manager in L1 twice.

This just isn’t true. We very much were an established, if unremarkable, Championship club when he left. Murray treaded water a bit and McKinnon gave us a good season but left the bones of a very strong squad. The two idiots Locke and Hughes destroyed that in one spectacular season.

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3 hours ago, CALDERON said:

Don't want to derail this thread too much with Rovers talk, but for me its all relative.  We finished 3rd last season, which was better than many of us thought, but at Xmas time this season we were in a title challenge.  When we beat Kilmarnock on 18 Dec we went something like 5 points clear of them.  We spend money on 2 different players this season (unheard of for Rovers) which more than likely came into 6 figures.  We went from being 5 points clear of Kilmarnock in December, to 17 points behind them on Friday.  The absolute least should have been a playoff spot this season.

That's not to say that Rovers have some devine right to be in the Premiership, but it's not a wild ambition to at least be competing for that prize - and the resource has been made available to aim for that this season.  Also, Livi, Hamilton and ICT have all spent time in the top flight or are still there - and our attendances are better than 2 of them and comparable with another.  I'm sure there are some creative accounting going on somewhere, but can't rule that out at Starks Park either :lol:

 

 

You'll be surprised how much income clubs can get from sponsorship/use of their ground.  

Fan numbers doesn't equal budget size, despite what a lot on this website think.  The Caley's main sponsorship deal is ridiculous apparently.

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4 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

You'll be surprised how much income clubs can get from sponsorship/use of their ground.  

Fan numbers doesn't equal budget size, despite what a lot on this website think.  The Caley's main sponsorship deal is ridiculous apparently.

Unfortunately FFC do not own the ground and if Council employees are involved regarding the clubs activities you can be sure they will be charging top whack. It the well discussed issue we are no more than leaseholders and the facilities we do own sit on council property. Such as owning the pitch but not the land it sits on and some seating but don't own the stands.

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20 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said:

Unfortunately FFC do not own the ground and if Council employees are involved regarding the clubs activities you can be sure they will be charging top whack. It the well discussed issue we are no more than leaseholders and the facilities we do own sit on council property. Such as owning the pitch but not the land it sits on and some seating but don't own the stands.

Ah see we've been renting out our home carpark to Bairds Maltings for the last year and charging them a very healthy monthly rent for the privilege too,  on top of our good sponsorship deals, whereas it seems Falkirk are having to fork out for using TFS. You have more ST holders than us, but we get good income elsewhere. No idea what Hamilton and Livi do for income, like us it certainly doesn't come from ST sales.

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13 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Ah see we've been renting out our home carpark to Bairds Maltings for the last year and charging them a very healthy monthly rent for the privilege too,  on top of our good sponsorship deals, whereas it seems Falkirk are having to fork out for using TFS. You have more ST holders than us, but we get good income elsewhere. No idea what Hamilton and Livi do for income, like us it certainly doesn't come from ST sales.

New Douglas Park and Almondvale always seem to have fresher advertising and utilise there advertising space a lot better than we do. NDP especially.

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I’m going on holiday on Wednesday for a week and like Grangemouth Bairn I’m going to take a wee break from all things FFC. By the time I get back I expect a new manager and a new squad of superstars signed who will have us romping the league. Anything else will be unacceptable 😁

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2 minutes ago, Broken Algorithms said:

 


Scott Burns is usually on the money with these things so it may well be going ahead.

Oh Jeezo, it could even happen before I go on holiday. I think with where we currently are he would be a decent appointment and should get the backing of the majority of fans. 

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2 hours ago, Duncan Freemason said:

He has hardly established RR as a Championship side. If that were the case, he wouldn’t have been manager in L1 twice.

So when John Hughes got Falkirk promoted then kept them there for four seasons, he hadn't established Falkirk as a top flight side because Eddie May then relegated them?

Scott Burns now reporting McGlynn to Falkirk is nearly a done deal.

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