LatapyBairn. Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 7 minutes ago, Reggie Perrin said: Why not a transfer then? Maybe the player wants to remain in full time training? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 12 minutes ago, LatapyBairn. said: Maybe the player wants to remain in full time training? Fair point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Roar Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 37 minutes ago, Reggie Perrin said: Why not a transfer then? With a transfer you still have to pay a severance because you have “broke his contract” by selling him, so if you sell him for say 10k but the contract he has left is say 20k it’s not worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Disappointing allans not just being released to a full time side but if he's happy to play in league 2 that perhaps sums up his ambition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Duck Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Who’s heading up to Buckie then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPM Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 9 hours ago, Hartleys18/19Army said: Bit of a joke signing by McGlynn. Not on Allan's part, not much he can do. Allan probably most natural finisher but does not fit McGylnns system at all. Will be interesting to see who his replacement is. No he is lazy and hasn’t upped his game to get into the team. It is not Mcglynns fault he didn’t play. It is all on the player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba douche Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 6 hours ago, LatapyBairn. said: Doubt that, club wouldn’t have allowed the loan move in that case if QOTS / Inverness were looking to take him permanently. The players allowed to refuse a transfer you know, unless you pay him off you can't MAKE him leave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North West Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 8 hours ago, bairn88 said: His one complete brain fart as our manager. Abysmal signing. But that’s been his only one, a much better record than most Goodwillie. He signed him mind, that didn't work out well in a previous job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) 9 hours ago, bairn88 said: His one complete brain fart as our manager. Abysmal signing. But that’s been his only one, a much better record than most 18 minutes ago, North West said: Goodwillie. He signed him mind, that didn't work out well in a previous job. Our meaning: belonging to or connected to us. McGlynn signing Goodwillie when he was employed by Raith Rovers had absolutely nothing to do with Falkirk FC. Close but no cigar. Edited July 19 by Bairn in Exile 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North West Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, Bairn in Exile said: Our meaning: belonging to or connected to us. McGlynn signing Goodwillie when he was employed by Raith Rovers had absolutely nothing to do with Falkirk FC. Close but no cigar. I wasn't implying it was to do with your club. I'm only saying he's made mistakes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 minute ago, North West said: I wasn't implying it was to do with your club. I'm only saying he's made mistakes. Fair dos, but everybody makes mistakes, nobody is infallible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blame Me Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 12 minutes ago, North West said: I wasn't implying it was to do with your club. I'm only saying he's made mistakes. At least he's never offered his own fans a square go, as far as I know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believe The Hype Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 8 hours ago, Reggie Perrin said: Why not a transfer then? Will be in clydes best interests to have him train full time which he won't get with them I'd assume. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatapyBairn. Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, baba douche said: The players allowed to refuse a transfer you know, unless you pay him off you can't MAKE him leave. Works both ways, the club also does not HAVE to allow the player to leave if the terms of the deal do not suit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 8 hours ago, Hampden Roar said: With a transfer you still have to pay a severance because you have “broke his contract” by selling him, so if you sell him for say 10k but the contract he has left is say 20k it’s not worth it. No you don't. You would only pay him if you come to the fabled "mutual agreement " 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Roar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 47 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: No you don't. You would only pay him if you come to the fabled "mutual agreement " So why then do players very rarely hand in a transfer request….reason….if they did they don’t get a severance as they are requesting to break the contract, if the club is “breaking the contract” by accepting a transfer the player is legally entitled to a severance because they are meeting the obligations of the contract 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Allen deal is a bit of a strange one if Clyde aren't paying all his wages. Otherwise I'm not sure what we are getting out of it. He'll be away come may so with it being a season long deal it's not as if we're looking for him to have a good season and then come back to us in better shape. He'll be hanging about the club training which is a cost to us and a percentage of his wages isn't going to open many doors for us to bring someone in I wouldn't have thought. I'd have preferred if we'd got him moved on entirely which shouldn't have been that hard given we wouldn't want a fee and his wages wouldn't be overly big for another full time side. Obviously Clyde couldn't afford his full time wages so it's a bit disappointing that we've let him move there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, Hampden Roar said: So why then do players very rarely hand in a transfer request….reason….if they did they don’t get a severance as they are requesting to break the contract, if the club is “breaking the contract” by accepting a transfer the player is legally entitled to a severance because they are meeting the obligations of the contract A club can't force anyone to move on to another club. Sometimes clubs will include a payoff as part of the deal if the player is moving to a club on lower wages to get the deal done . There's no legally entitled severance though as no team can make a player go where they don't want to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 (edited) Correct. I thought that was self evident. If you don't fancy the proposed transfer, you just sit tight on your existing deal. Severance is only due when a deal is cancelled, and even then a player will often accept a certain percentage of the outstanding wages in order to go and start earning somewhere else immediately. Edited July 19 by Ranaldo Bairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Roar Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: A club can't force anyone to move on to another club. Sometimes clubs will include a payoff as part of the deal if the player is moving to a club on lower wages to get the deal done . There's no legally entitled severance though as no team can make a player go where they don't want to go. By severance I’m meaning the remainder of his contract, in Allan’s case if he was transferred, the player would be entitled to the remainder of his contract paid, but would probably negotiate a severance of some sort if he was fine leaving. By doing a loan it’s probably better financially for us, and with the budgets tight saves paying a lump sum to the player if either a transfer or a “mutual” agreed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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