gav-ffc Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 McGhee, Robson, Sibbald and Longridge will be kept on imo and I think he’ll try shift on Loy and Harris who are under contract.Leaving us with Mitchell McGhee RobsonSibbaldLongridge Shepherd Ohara. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BendtnerBairn Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Joe McKee signed 2 years last summer as well did he not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Gaz said: Dumbarton have won 3 games all season against teams that aren't Brechin. They are not going to make up 8 points on us over 4 games. To make that stat a bit more honking, of those 3 games, in 2 of them the opposition were down to 10 men. Dundee United are the only full time team with 11 men that we've beaten this year in the league. And you c***s think you're having a bad season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, BendtnerBairn said: Joe McKee signed 2 years last summer as well did he not? Forgot about him, not sure. Mutch was also 2 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainsfordbairn Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, gav-ffc said: Forgot about him, not sure. Mutch was also 2 years. McKee was two years, as was Blues who you missed off your list. And quite a few of the youths. Whereas O Hara's contract will be up in the summer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18BAIRN76 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 The thought of McKee and Harris having another year makes me want to greet. Hope Hartley does everything in his power to chuck them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMBairn Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 McKee was two years, as was Blues who you missed off your list. And quite a few of the youths. Whereas O Hara's contract will be up in the summer. If o'hara's contract is up then he is totally fucked here. I think we will see an almost total clear out with contracted played like McKee and Loy allowed to go on a free and maybe even given a wee bung to get them out the door as Hartley brings in his own team.I think if he gets his own way he will only keep:MitchellRobsonMcGheeMuirheadSibbsLongridgeGuys like Nelson, tumilty and Jak are up in the air for me depending on the situation at thier parent clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 A bit unfair. He hasn’t been playing much recently and it showed in his passing last night.Was still one of our better players yesterday Speaking as someone who would like to see Taiwo retained for next season I thought he was pretty poor last night.Looked off the pace but I suppose that could be down to lack of match time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitbafollower Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 At the end of the day Hartley will retain who he believes has done enough during his time as Manager with a view to improve as a team next year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Dufresne Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I have been told that 15 players will be leaving and 12 coming in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Which 12? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Which 15?Mon tae f**k you -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) 11 goalies and a slow, midget central midfielder. I don't actually want it announced until it's 100% we're not for the drop. He can tell the players, and the rest of the world as soon as they come out the dressing room after the match on whatever day we achieve that. Edited April 11, 2018 by Ranaldo Bairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Fitbafollower said: At the end of the day Hartley will retain who he believes has done enough during his time as Manager with a view to improve as a team next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Back Post Misses Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 It's not nonsense at all its called being a realist, if somehow Dumbarton manage a win on Saturday and we lose will you still think it's nonsense. Until we are mathematically safe then it's not nonsense at all. Not that it holds any significance but Rangers did die that bit is based on fact. It really depends on what you class as a major trophy, claiming the Championship title would be a major trophy to us would it not? Number 1 Knicker wetter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Back Post Misses Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 McKee was two years, as was Blues who you missed off your list. And quite a few of the youths. Whereas O Hara's contract will be up in the summer. Speaking to players in Elliot’s on Saturday there is certainly an air of “we would like to sign but still don’t know what is happening” I really wish this season was done and dusted (mathematically hopefully done Saturday).It has been disgraceful club management over the last couple of seasons to have so many players contracts finishing at the same time. It looks obvious to me no medium/long term thought was given to length of contracts, players ages and squad balance. Someone on the Board should have been saying no to Houston and getting these sort of things thought through.I actually have confidence that we will not make this mistake under Hartley and Craig Campbell. Fingers crossed anyway 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainsfordbairn Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said: Speaking to players in Elliot’s on Saturday there is certainly an air of “we would like to sign but still don’t know what is happening” I think that's always the case, or at least it has been in the last couple of years while I've been more closely involved at the club. They play their final match and then meet the manager early the following week to be told if they're wanted or not. That's the certainly the case this year. I spoke to one of them after the game last night and he has no idea what's happening, despite the fact that he's probably one of the ones that most folk would want to keep. As for your other point, it seems that the club have always allowed the manager to run the playing squad as he sees fit. Not having relegation clauses, and in some cases, having players who increased their wages after relegation because they passed a threshold would be a good example of this. I have no idea whether that sort of board oversight is common at other clubs or not. It may even be that our way of doing things is the norm, unless you're working for Vladimir Romanov. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Back Post Misses Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I think that's always the case, or at least it has been in the last couple of years while I've been more closely involved at the club. They play their final match and then meet the manager early the following week to be told if they're wanted or not. That's the certainly the case this year. I spoke to one of them after the game last night and he has no idea what's happening, despite the fact that he's probably one of the ones that most folk would want to keep. As for your other point, it seems that the club have always allowed the manager to run the playing squad as he sees fit. Not having relegation clauses, and in some cases, having players who increased their wages after relegation because they passed a threshold would be a good example of this. I have no idea whether that sort of board oversight is common at other clubs or not. It may even be that our way of doing things is the norm, unless you're working for Vladimir Romanov. Certainly not saying the Board should be selecting players but having 18 or so OoC at one time is incompetent and asking for trouble, which is what we got 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainsfordbairn Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 5 hours ago, 18BAIRN76 said: The thought of McKee and Harris having another year makes me want to greet. Hope Hartley does everything in his power to chuck them. McKee hasn't started a game since we played Dumbarton in February. Harris hasn't started a game since we played Dundee Utd in November. Neither have been mentioned in the frequent "can you give us an injury update?" questions asked on Falkirk TV. It therefore seems reasonable to speculate that neither are wanted and will not be playing next season if we bring in replacements during the summer. You could probably apply the same reasoning to Rory Loy, who hasn't started since Brechin in February. If that's true, they can either sit out the final year of their contracts with a guaranteed wage but with no chance of game time, or choose to cut their losses and try to find another club. If it were me than I know which option I would choose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 13 hours ago, Back Post Misses said: Certainly not saying the Board should be selecting players but having 18 or so OoC at one time is incompetent and asking for trouble, which is what we got I'd like to think that although most of the new signings will be loans or on one year deals as per Hartleys policy of making players show their worth before getting anything longer, that we will be getting those that do on to long term deals as soon as possible. The likes of robson and Mcghee for instance should not just be being offered another year through their options but should be being offered 2 or 3 year extentions at least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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