The Falkirk FC Thread

[Rugster]

29 minutes ago, Bainsfordbairn said:

Sorry, but that's not true. He's in charge of the groundstaff and stadium operations. His role covers things like maintenance, security, match safety, liaison with FCSL etc, etc. He has no input whatsoever into football matters. 

Now that it's been highlighted on here I'm sure it will be fixed and added to the "important things to know about the job" manual for the next football ops guy and / or kitman. 

Fair enough on the role, maybe a bit of clarity needed on the website then. 
 

Quite frankly though, for people who knew Craig, which I count myself as one, it really is an important thing to know about the job. I’m sure it was an oversight and I have no doubt it is regretted and will be remedied. I also hope you didn’t mean to come across as flippantly as you did with the quotation marks around important things to know about the job. Again I’m sure you didn’t and I’m maybe being over sensitive. 

[Guest]

Was the number retired? 

[Rugster]

Just now, Back Post Misses said:

Was the number retired? 

It was supposed to have been. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Rugster said:

It was supposed to have been. 

I don’t recall it but fair enough. 

[Rugster]

1 minute ago, Back Post Misses said:

I don’t recall it but fair enough. 

I don’t know if there is or was an actual official thing you do to retire a number, but at the time it was understood it wouldn’t be used again and his jersey was framed and hung on the wall in the stadium. It wasn’t where it is now from memory. It may have been in the dressing room, I can’t remember but it wasn’t in the tunnel where it is now when I worked there. 

[Guest]

Everton just proved how possession of the ball is irrelevant if you have no cutting edge. Banged 5 past Brighton with 23% of the ball.    

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Rugster said:

I don’t know if there is or was an actual official thing you do to retire a number, but at the time it was understood it wouldn’t be used again and his jersey was framed and hung on the wall in the stadium. It wasn’t where it is now from memory. It may have been in the dressing room, I can’t remember but it wasn’t in the tunnel where it is now when I worked there. 

Last I saw it was in the tunnel next to the huge academy board. Not been in there for ages though

[Grangemouth Bairn]

11 minutes ago, Back Post Misses said:

Was the number retired? 

There are several interviews with Scott Arfield where he mentions that the 37 jersey was retired at the time mate.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said:

There are several interviews with Scott Arfield where he mentions that the 37 jersey was retired at the time mate.

As I said I don’t recall it but fair enough. 

[Springfield]

There’s not a chance in hell, McGlynn would consider playing like what Everton did today. We’ll get the tippy tippy across the back line…………

[Bainsfordbairn]

54 minutes ago, Rugster said:

Fair enough on the role, maybe a bit of clarity needed on the website then. 
 

Quite frankly though, for people who knew Craig, which I count myself as one, it really is an important thing to know about the job. I’m sure it was an oversight and I have no doubt it is regretted and will be remedied. I also hope you didn’t mean to come across as flippantly as you did with the quotation marks around important things to know about the job. Again I’m sure you didn’t and I’m maybe being over sensitive. 

It wasn't flippant; it was just an attempt to illustrate a process that used to exist when I was working. (The departing employee left a "how to / guidance notes / bible" on his job for the next incumbent.)  I apologise if it came across otherwise. 

My guess is that with the high turnover of football staff in recent years, some important aspects of the clubs background haven't been passed on. 

Edited May 8, 2023 by Bainsfordbairn
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[Bainsfordbairn]

53 minutes ago, Rugster said:

 his jersey was framed and hung on the wall in the stadium. It wasn’t where it is now from memory. It may have been in the dressing room, I can’t remember but it wasn’t in the tunnel where it is now when I worked there. 

I had a look through my stock of old pics. According to the "File Info" tab on photoshop, I took this image on 1st August 2009. The top is at the same location it occupies today, which is on the back wall of the corridor between the two changing rooms which lead to the tunnel. I couldn't say where it was between 2005 and 2009 so it's possible it was indeed moved. 

The club still hold a remembrance service every year on the anniversary of his passing so he hasn't been forgotten. Normally these are conducted by Mike Pirie in the tunnel area, though I remember at least one preseason tour in which Peter Houston spoke to the squad and made sure they had a minutes silence for Craig Gowans. I think we were in Ireland that year. 

 

Edited May 8, 2023 by Bainsfordbairn
additional info

[HoBNob]

54 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

I have to say, I agree that it's in the "let's not have that happen again" bracket, but in no way do I think any disrespect has been shown to the memory of Craig Gowans by anyone. 

Indeed, there's few guarantees in life but you can be pretty certain that whoever was in charge of allocating kit numbers will feel absolutely horrendous when they realised what's happened. 

[18BAIRN76]

Wee Arfield McGovern double signing?

[FFC 1876]

5 minutes ago, 18BAIRN76 said:

Wee Arfield McGovern double signing?

McGloves is soon to be 39 I believe he'll be hanging them up unfortunately. Arfield on the other hand, in you come.

[RC55 FFC]

I wasn’t available this week but as you can see, John organised an able substitute to help preview the big week ahead…

[PedroMoutinho]

6 minutes ago, RC55 FFC said:

I wasn’t available this week but as you can see, John organised an able substitute to help preview the big week ahead…

Interesting to hear Miller and McCracken tried to re-sign O’Hara. Yet another example of their terrible recruitment.

[RandomGuy.]

27 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said:

Interesting to hear Miller and McCracken tried to re-sign O’Hara. Yet another example of their terrible recruitment.

TBF O'Hara was, and is, a very good striker for this level, if you use him right.

[Rob1885]

1 hour ago, PedroMoutinho said:

Interesting to hear Miller and McCracken tried to re-sign O’Hara. Yet another example of their terrible recruitment.

Was scoring goals for an unfancied team in the league above at the time so not that a bizzare target.

[Bairn in Exile]

On 03/05/2023 at 17:13, Bairn in Exile said:

It would be ludicrous to sack a manager and replace him with only 4 games to go, wouldn't it?

Needs must.

https://news.sky.com/story/leeds-sack-manager-javi-gracia-and-replace-him-with-big-sam-allardyce-12871374

 

On 03/05/2023 at 17:15, SouthStander1876 said:

This is just trying to cause an argument and you know it, 2 completely different situations.

 

On 03/05/2023 at 19:37, FK1Bairn said:

Different situations. 

Remember the uproar when Hearts sacked Burley while they were top of the SPL? 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/gary-bowyer-set-dundee-exit-29928326

So, Hearts sack Burley when they are top of the league.

Queen's Park emptied McKinnon after winning them promotion.

Dundee unimpressed with Bowyer winning them promotion and happy to let him go.

But if we don't get promoted via the play-offs we should still keep McGlynn on?

It appears that the big mistake that McKinnon and Bowyer made was actually winning their leagues, if they had just failed they might still have a job. 

And before the reddies start flying in, I am desperate for McGlynn to get the job done and get us promoted, I want him to be a success and take charge of us in the Championship.