UpInTheAyr Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Elixir said: I thought it implied killing wights or that she was about to kill a White Walker. In fact, I've just realised the White Walkers done basically f**k all. Still not sure I'm happy with Arya killing him. It should have been Jon, even if it was more predictable. Why build them both up as rivals for so long otherwise? It felt like not doing it just for the sake of trying to not be obvious. The NK was never part of Arya's arc, it was always Jon's, so it was surprising she was the one to off him. Arya always had her list to complete. It kinda made sense the WW's stayed out the battle as killing one of them would have killed a whole bunch of wights, they are acceptable cannon fodder you can easily sacrifice unlike the Dothraki or Unsullied. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Did anyone apart from Bran witness Arya kill the Night King? A wee lie that Jon did it may interest things. As surely if Arya is to complete her list being known as the assassin that took out the NK won’t do her any favours. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I will be watching it based on what went before in the first 5 seasons. Not what’s come in the last couple of years. There’s been a complete overreaction in terms of the last couple of seasons and this one. Comparing it to the first 4 or 5 seasons is ridiculous. The time for intricate storylines is over. All the storylines are in the one place and it’s all came to a head so it’s only natural that they would devote an entire episode to a battle. They’ve done it in the past with the Battle of the Blackwater, Battle of the Wall and Battle of the b*****ds and they were all brilliant episodes. It’s also nonsense to say that D&D don’t know how to finish it considering Martin told them years ago how it finishes and how to wrap up all the plot lines for the main characters. They’re going off of what he’s told them.It’s obvious that it’s not as good as it was when it first started but no TV show ever is. It’s stupid to expect anything else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 The NK was never part of Arya's arc, it was always Jon's, so it was surprising she was the one to off him. Arya always had her list to complete. It kinda made sense the WW's stayed out the battle as killing one of them would have killed a whole bunch of wights, they are acceptable cannon fodder you can easily sacrifice unlike the Dothraki or Unsullied.I get that but I think it would’ve been quite boring had it simply been a case of Jon beating him. I may be in the minority but I like the way they did it with Arya. The NK represents death and that was her way of telling him “not today”. Anyway I think Jon’s arc is now being pushed over to the Iron Throne side of things and deciding whether he wants to remain a Snow and King in the North or become a Targaryan and rule Westeros. The latter will probably result in a conflict with Dany which will lead to him killing her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HoBNob Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 On 5/2/2019 at 20:00, RandomGuy. said: His backstory is still never actually explained, tbf. It doesn't need to be though? There's a few prequels while will explain it in a far more detailed manner, the information we got for the character was plenty. The only reason people are obsessed with the backstory is because some thought Bran was the night king. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 It doesn't need to be though? There's a few prequels while will explain it in a far more detailed manner, the information we got for the character was plenty. The only reason people are obsessed with the backstory is because some thought Bran was the night king. People are obsessed with the backstory because otherwise he's simply a terrible, one-dimensional, motivationless villain.It’s obvious that it’s not as good as it was when it first started but no TV show ever is. It’s stupid to expect anything else. ^ never watched Breaking Bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 The 'Bran is the Night King' theory has gone the same way as the 'Tyrion is a Targaryen and will ride a dragon' theory. Both were absolute nonsense to begin with and have been shown to be nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: People are obsessed with the backstory because otherwise he's simply a terrible, one-dimensional, motivationless villain. ^ never watched Breaking Bad. He is one dimensional. He has a single motivation and purpose, and that makes him one dimensional. There's no nuance to 'wanting to kill everyone and erase history'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 8 hours ago, D'Jaffo said: There’s been a complete overreaction in terms of the last couple of seasons and this one. Comparing it to the first 4 or 5 seasons is ridiculous. The time for intricate storylines is over. Nah. They could easily have strung out certain bits like Littlefinger in Winterfell as an interesting story, instead we got scene after scene of Jon and Dany ham fistedly "falling in love" 3 hours ago, Grant228 said: It doesn't need to be though? There's a few prequels while will explain it in a far more detailed manner, the information we got for the character was plenty. It was disappointing that, in a show with great characters, that one of the only ones to be in for eight seasons was so bare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Did anyone apart from Bran witness Arya kill the Night King? A wee lie that Jon did it may interest things. As surely if Arya is to complete her list being known as the assassin that took out the NK won’t do her any favours.I saw it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 I saw it. The night king was killed by no one... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarley Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Savage Henry said: I saw it. I did too . I think. I mean I had to stop it a couple of times to adjust the brightness and colour settings but I think I saw it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightswoodBear Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 19 hours ago, M0rtonfc said: When Bran took control of the crows, do you think something will come of that or was he simply just flying about looking for where the NK was? Also, someone mentioned earlier that they don't believe the white walkers are done and dusted, could Bran possibly do anything with them now that the NK is pan breed? The NK isn't a POV character in the show, so I took that bit as an easy way for them to show us the NK at that moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Chlamydia Kid said: The last series of the sopranos is as good as the first. I mean the final part was good but the parts where you spent a significant amount of time following Vito as he was on the run in rural New England or wherever was pretty awful. Nothing but time filler as they dragged a seasons worth of content across extra episodes. Edited May 4, 2019 by Rodhull 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 He is one dimensional. He has a single motivation and purpose, and that makes him one dimensional. There's no nuance to 'wanting to kill everyone and erase history'.Exactly, that's why his death was so unsatisfying compared to Joffrey's or Ramsey's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 They've explored every part of the map now though, so they've unlocked all the fast travel options.This map? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 ^ never watched Breaking Bad.Correct The last series of the sopranos is as good as the first. No it isn’t 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 16 hours ago, DA Baracus said: The 'Bran is the Night King' theory has gone the same way as the 'Tyrion is a Targaryen and will ride a dragon' theory... Judging by what wound up in my youtube recommendations today there are some people who are still peddling the first of those as the third major twist. Think the latter one might still happen in the book, because the lamest parts of the scripts of the last couple of seasons have been the parts that rule it out by taking Viserion out of the equation and those are probably the parts of the TV series that don't involve GRRM's intended plot lines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 I know there’s a bit of talk about Sam writing the book at the end. I have therefore decided that the only reason Davos is still alive is because he will be the one doing it at the end, misspelling every word about five times in the process. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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