DeeGeeOneHamer Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 'Big boys playground' It seems to have escaped Mr Traynor's low intelligence threshold, that since the inception of the SPL and during Rangers years of cheating, Scotland have achieved the square root of naff all in the 'Big boys playground'. We haven't gained entry to the fancy dance as our clobber is out-dated, our patter is diabolical and even fake IDs get laughed at by the doorman at UEFA and FIFA. Scottish football will flourish again, this is our Arab Spring or News of the World scandal, and just like in Libya and News Corp offices the world continues and there has been no implosion. There is always on fly in the ointment, Traynor and his Rangers salivating ilk acting up like Russia and China in refusing to condemn Syria, but that regime will fall and that nation will grow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AES Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Sensible news here: Rangers Update 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceblink Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 this is our Arab Spring We should be rejoicing in Tarrier Square! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Scottish football will flourish again, this is our Arab Spring or News of the World scandal, and just like in Libya and News Corp offices the world continues and there has been no implosion. Is this a reference to Stephen Tompson being the most vocal anti-newco chairman? I already have my coat on, could someone pass my hat? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Keevins scaremongering now up!! http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/spl/2012/07/02/rangers-in-crisis-sfl-insider-reveals-20-clubs-could-go-the-wall-if-they-don-t-accept-newco-into-their-ranks-86908-23903342/ Presumably this depends what the Agreement says... e.g. if the Settlement falls as SPL income falls, then it would reduce; if it's a fixed sum then it continues unaffected. Thats true, but the article states that there are 20 clubs ready to go to the wall if they lose the £60k they currently get. That, quite plainly, is nonsense. Its, roughly, the equivalent of one, maybe two, players salaries. Every single club in the country could run with one less player in the squad, if they had to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeGeeOneHamer Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Thats true, but the article states that there are 20 clubs ready to go to the wall if they lose the £60k they currently get. That, quite plainly, is nonsense. Its, roughly, the equivalent of one, maybe two, players salaries. Every single club in the country could run with one less player in the squad, if they had to. Take your voice of reason, trundle half way across the Suspension Bridge and jump in the Nith as punishment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Anyone else read that fannyspangle Michael Grant's latest Orc propaganda piece in The Herald today? No to newco' a sound view, but 'yes' supporters must also be heard SPARE a thought for the poor souls hiding away around Scotland who might want to whisper "yes to newco". They must exist. Perhaps there are thousands of them. Maybe the majority of Scottish League clubs will turn out to be supportive of letting Rangers join them at first-division level, but are too nervous about openly saying so. If not, and there is widespread or unanimous objection to the option favoured in the "Your Game, Your Club, Your Future" document sent around by the Scottish Football League executive, that's quite a slap in the face for the governing body. Well here's your answer, courtesy of The Scotsman's Sports section: http://www.scotsman.com/sport Rangers poll Monday, 2 July 2012 What league should a newly-formed Rangers be allowed to play in next season? SPL 238 (1%) Division One 181 (1%) Division Two 30 (0%) Division Three 23062 (98%) That I reckon is only because there was no "chuck them out altogether" option and Division 3 was the lowest that could be picked! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 It seems to have escaped Mr Traynor's low intelligence threshold, that since the inception of the SPL and during Rangers years of cheating, Scotland have achieved the square root of naff all in the 'Big boys playground'. But, but... but... both Rangers and Celtic fans will tell you that they both got to the European diddy team final, although that's like Brechin claiming that they're a big player in Scottish football because they got to the Challenge Cup final back in 2002. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mybitchunderprotest Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) Here is Traytor's article in today's Daily Ranger - I have cut and pasted it to avoid boosting their website traffic: If SPL & SFL kick Gers out of football they will kill our game By jim Traytor on Jul 2, 12 07:25 AM THE shape of things to come will be decided by close of play Wednesday. We should know by then if Scottish football has been big enough to edge back from the brink. For months now there has been a savagery. The game has been ripping itself apart all in the name of fair play. Or was it sporting integrity? Forgive me, the reasons for the crisis that threatens to destroy Scottish football have been lost somewhere in the lust to tear and shred one club. It's as though a century of hatred and probably jealousy have erupted. And the handful of reasoned souls left in the game are fighting a losing battle to cap the flow. The trouble is too many men with influence have been working not for the good of the game but to selfish agendas. They've done bad things in the name of morality. They've abused their privileged positions and if there was any decency left in the sleazy, tacky football world they inhabit they would not be allowed inside Hampden this or any other week. The dishonourable posing as protectors of the game's integrity by making up laws and punishments as they go along. By arguing and pressing for more severe punishments and demanding that Rangers newco be stripped of titles and trophies won in the EBT years by another business entirely, they are inflaming and prolonging an agonisingly painful and damaging period. Anyone who believes that stripping the old Rangers of baubles will help solve this meltdown should be ignored, pushed aside because we are way beyond bragging rights. We, Scottish football, are on the brink of total collapse. Those who are consumed by petty matters and the settling of old, ancient scores have made it harder to find the solution, the compromise agreement that's badly needed. One day the truth about the subterfuge, deception, and downright spitefulness used to prolong this saga might be told but right now those who are trying to save what is left of the game need to be given space. And hopefully the right and sensible decisions will be made when the SFL and SPL meet tomorrow and Wednesday respectively. Everything, the game's fate and Rangers' chances of survival never mind revival, depends on these leagues of gentlemen, if of course they do meet tomorrow. The situation is critical yet it seems we have two clubs threatening to block tomorrow's meeting. Stenhousemuir and Alloa have an objection. God help us. Hopefully the meetings will go ahead and if honesty and common sense prevail we might just begin to emerge from the darkness and see clearly who is working for the game and who is working for themselves. We might also notice that in our rabid rush to condemn and stone Rangers we have stumbled to the very precipice of catastrophe. Another misguided step or irrational utterance and Scottish football will be in total free fall so tomorrow the SFL must do one of two things. Either they decide to let Rangers newco - who already know they don't have the support of enough SPL clubs to get the share that would let them begin again at the top - kick off in the First Division or the way is cleared for them to start in the bottom tier. But research has shown the game will lose £16million if Rangers are dumped in the Third Division and frankly that would be too great a loss to an already impoverished business. Supporters, of course, are entitled to be heard but the question is this: Are fans - forget the ones who can't see beyond their own hatred - willing to see what they believe to be justice done no matter the cost or consequences? What if their justice means Scottish football would be reduced to a truly moribund state that would make recovery impossible? What if their idea of fair play meant our game would be forever locked out of the big boys' playground? Morals and integrity are fine but we must all be sure we can cope with the fall out, which would be considerable. Clubs will cut right back on numbers as we're already seeing with Hibernian who have just paid off Pat Fenlon's deputy Billy Brown. Players and wages will be next, although the first real casualty is more likely to be youth development. Mark my words, clubs are already being squeezed by their banks who have seen Lloyds get out with all of their money back from Rangers. The other lenders also want shot of their football clients and they'll be imposing tougher repayment plans on clubs, who will use these demands as excuses to make swingeing cuts on their budgets. If they are asked to reduce spending by £300,000 a year they'll make it £600,000 and blame it all on Rangers. But even by making savage cuts, a number of clubs will still go bust. This will be the true price of sporting integrity. And when the doors are being padlocked let's have no wailing or tears because too many clubs saw Rangers' insolvency as an opportunity to promote their own agendas. Yet what good has that done any of them, apart from allowing them to invade the moral high ground for a short while. Now, though, as they hobble down having broken their toes through kicking Rangers they are suddenly confronted with reality. They have the power to deny this new club any chance of life but they'll be condemning themselves to a miserable, empty future. Without the millions a healthy Rangers and their fans help generate, Scottish football will decline rapidly. All credibility at home and abroad will be lost. If this is what we wish then fine, deny Rangers an SPL share on Wednesday and SFA membership when the Appellate Tribunal sits again to decide a punishment acceptable in the eyes of the real law. If this is what upholding fair play means then let's go for it. Let's take decisions tomorrow and the next day that will chime with whatever our notions of integrity are and kill the game. After all, we can't put a price on justice, especially in football where justice is something to be kicked around without finesse or direction. Of course justice should be about fairness and handing down punishments that reflect the nature of crimes committed. It should always be about observing the law according to the rules and principles written down. But that's the problem with applying justice in a morally bankrupt game. Nothing seems to be written down. If it is there in black and white no one can understand it. The SFL have called in lawyers to make sense of their own articles ahead of tomorrow's meetings and, of course, the SFA spent a couple of years revamping their own codes, leaning heavily on the finest legal minds. Yet, when a transfer ban on Rangers was imposed it was kicked out in Edinburgh's Court of Session. It's a grotesque farce and one club chairman had to remove himself from the entire business yesterday. He had to plod along a west-coast beach in the wind and rain to try and clear his head. The game is pulling itself apart because some want to settle old scores with Rangers while others strive only to make the most of the problems and strengthen their own positions. Okay, but what's the point in being powerful within a game that will soon have no real significance beyond its own boundaries? But here are a few questions those 'just' men should ask themselves as they file into their meeting rooms on Hampden's sixth floor over the next couple of days: Is losing all credibility, standing in the game, SFA licence, SPL share and being treated with the utmost contempt not punishment enough? No? Then ask yourselves this: Is going out of business, struggling to emerge as a newco without fan support and being banned from playing in Europe for three years and being branded pariahs not punishment enough? If the answer is still no then there is no justice. And there is no hope. The game, and not just Rangers, will be doomed. WE!!! Is he for real, I'm more a part of the fabric of Scottish Football than this cunt, I've been paying for a season ticket for over 25 years including a season of insolvency when despite having paid upfront I had to pay at the gate to get in. WE!!! The man is a fucking buffoon. When anyone remembers this condescending pricks part in Scottish Football, it should be as a parasite. Lived off the game for most of his life, gave nothing back and acted as a propagandist for sections of the game who should never have been given the time of day. Fuck off Traynor, you're a despicable cunt and I hope you lose your BBC income and the Record goes out of business. That would be fucking justice. edited to remove unnecessary foul language. I've left the necessary foul language. Edited July 2, 2012 by Mybitchunderprotest 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Jim, There is a vacant space in the league, this has happened before - In those previous occasions did the league invite teams to apply to join: A) The SPL. B) The First Division. C) The Third Division. D) The Blue Square Premier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 If the top end of our game is so financially dependent upon Rangers (and/or) Celtic and the "benefits" they bring maybe some of our Clubs going to the wall by starting afresh from a clean slate with transparent rules, regulations & punishments for ALL might be a price worth paying......... If I ended up following my Club in the East of Scotland League as a result of this who's to say it wouldn't be worth it in the long run & as part of the bigger picture ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 But, but... but... both Rangers and Celtic fans will tell you that they both got to the European diddy team final, although that's like Brechin claiming that they're a big player in Scottish football because they got to the Challenge Cup final back in 2002. Rangers have an impressive Euro record - two finals, two riots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Take your voice of reason, trundle half way across the Suspension Bridge and jump in the Nith as punishment. I dont like the suspension bridge 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 'Big boys playground' It seems to have escaped Mr Traynor's low intelligence threshold, that since the inception of the SPL and during Rangers years of cheating, Scotland have achieved the square root of naff all in the 'Big boys playground'. We haven't gained entry to the fancy dance as our clobber is out-dated, our patter is diabolical and even fake IDs get laughed at by the doorman at UEFA and FIFA. Celtic x2 and Rangers x1 reached the CL last 16, both OF reached the UEFA Cup Final, national team reached a Euro 2004 play-off, we qualified for U19 Euros and U20 World Cup. Won't satisfy the "when we were great" brigade, but equally, it's not really that shabby for a nation of 5M of our sort in the modern footballing environment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin M Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Celtic x2 and Rangers x1 reached the CL last 16, both OF reached the UEFA Cup Final, national team reached a Euro 2004 play-off, we qualified for U19 Euros and U20 World Cup. Won't satisfy the "when we were great" brigade, but equally, it's not really that shabby for a nation of 5M of our sort in the modern footballing environment. It looks like Rangers were cheating and had a significant competitive advantage to "achieve" these things. Best to stop crowing about it, I'd say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Leitch Loyal Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Another signing target missed by Rangers. Carlos Cuellar Won't Be Signing For Rangers - Exclusive! "Madrid-born Cuellar rose through the leagues in his homeland, spending time with Calahorra and Numancia before joining Osasuna in 2003." I've had those and the doctor said they were caused by eating too much Spanish food. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanco Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Bigot f*ckwit ^^was too ugly to get in the school cheerleading team IMO^^ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordieBoy80 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Well said. Now let us join the EPL and leave you all to it Cheerio. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Leitch Loyal Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Sensible news here: Rangers Update "Rangers’ new pub, The Red Hand & Luther, was bought with the proceeds of selling off Ibrox to a consortium of Celtic fans who intend to turn it into the world’s largest urinal." I thought that honour was held by Hampden since the day in 1937 when 149,415 were there for the England match. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Roth Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 On a slight detour but related to the Daily Retard's output lately I see their editor has been using Twitter to try and intimidate people criticising their sports' coverage. That Burnistoun fellow Robert Florence had the cheek to call them liars and Allan Rennie (editor) hit back basically saying they had given positive reviews of the show in the rag so they expected more loyalty. I've never watched Burnistoun so not sure that such "celebrity" support is beneficial to the cause, but it's definitely telling that the editor himself is throwing his weight around to try and limit the damage done by Jabba and his ilk. Media NewsMedia TalentMedia Coverage MEDIA NEWS & COMMENTMEDIA RELEASESMEDIA JOBSMEETING YOUR MEDIA NEEDS10 Questions ForSpotlight OnIn My OpinionIn Our OpinionAdviceBlogsPodcastsPost Your Media ReleaseSubmit a Job AdJoin the Media DirectoryLet us Handle Your PRTestimonials Digital July 02 2012 10:47 Twitter Spat Brewing as Rennie Responds to Comedian's Comments A twitter spat is brewing this morning, with the Daily Record editor, Allan Rennie, describing a tweet by the Scots comedian, Robert Florence, as a "bit ungracious". Rennie's involvement follows a series of tweets about the Daily Record's sports coverage by Florence, who co-writes and stars in the BBC sketch show, Burnistoun. And Florence's reaction to Rennie's response - which reads: "Bit ungracious. Would that be the same Daily Record that consistently championed your show." - this morning also runs into several tweets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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