Granny Danger Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Why? They signed a deal that says someone pays £ABC, for a product they regard as having a certain value... and that if that product alters significantly (through removal of something which contributes a large amount of the value) they can renegotiate or walk away. It doesn't say Rangers must be in SPL... it says TV doesn't have to pay £ABC for something whose value has reduced. I hope when Doncaster goes he takes you with him. Creepy apologist cunt. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty 218 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Jim Spence @bbcjimspenceSfa will not allow rfc newco into spl says Stewart Regan :blink: :D First I've seen this! So it's not about the SPL vote after all! It's pure panic - SFL or nothing! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Northerner Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) Why has it take Regan months to say that? A lot of this posturing could have been avoided. A 'sensible' answer is that they are not satisfied with the documents lodged by NewCo on Friday in support of the transfer of SFA share from Rangers (IA). Edited July 3, 2012 by The Old Northerner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Why has it take Regan months to say that? A lot of this posturing could have been avoided. Its possible that SFA have only told him within the last few days or mibbee that UEFA have had a quiet word in the SFA's lugghole?? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jie Bie Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Jim Spence @bbcjimspence Sfa will not allow rfc newco into spl says Stewart Regan WTF!? So all we've heard today is a secret deal to allow Sevco entry to the SPL, with Neil Cockwomble Doncaster spouting out warnings of FINANCIAL ARMAGEDDON if Sevco don't get to leapfrog SFL2 and 3 upon election, and now Regan comes out with this peach!? You'd think that Regan and Doncaster would have agreed on a common way forward before today's SFL meeting, but no, it sounds like a complete fukking shambles. Oh dear... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 cos the fifa big wigs are back from a month of 5 star hotels in poland and have kicked him into touch Heh heh, fair point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Any contract that has specified either cheek of the OF needing to be in the top 6 is reason enough to sack Doncaster, the contracts breach any fair attempt at competition in the league. As many have said, what would happen if Green or Blue didn't get into the top 6? Then they'd not be in the Top 6. The way the league works is set out perfectly clearly in SPL rules. There won't be a contract that says Rangers / Celtic must be in the Top 6, must play 4 times, even must play in SPL: there may be (infact evidently is) a contract that says TV doesn't have to pay-up regardless for Xyrs if they aren't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 It's almost as if nobody knows what the f**k they are doing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northsea80 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Sky wouldn't pull a deal completely, there would be negotiation over a price. Scottish football is already sold short in terms of tv revenue and Sky aren't the only game in town now that BT have shown their hand in buying up english football rights. Add espn in to the mix and there are three parties surely the spl and however else can negotiate some sort of deal with. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Chris McLaughlin @BBCchrismclaug #Rangers chairman Malcolm Murray apologises to Scottish football for the current mess. Please die more quietly It's hardly an apology. He deftly shifts the blame when he says: I apologise unreservedly to all for the distress, disruption and difficulty inflicted on the football community, caused entirely by the actions of people who failed miserably to act responsibly during their stewardship of Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReasonableGeezer Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Why has it take Regan months to say that? A lot of this posturing could have been avoided. I've a feeling that it might just be coming from powers higher than the SFA. Perhaps FIFA have "advised"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Sky wouldn't pull a deal completely, there would be negotiation over a price. Scottish football is already sold short in terms of tv revenue and Sky aren't the only game in town now that BT have shown their hand in buying up english football rights. Add espn in to the mix and there are three parties surely the spl and however else can negotiate some sort of deal with. Not with Doncaster at the helm they can't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Jim Spence @bbcjimspence Sfa will not allow rfc newco into spl says Stewart Regan WTF is going on!!! This is getting more bizarre by the minute!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Ah totally but Doncaster probably thought he could sway opinion with his scare mongering and change minds. He'll report back saying no danger boys and some SPL "nos" may become "yes" - it's all guesswork at minute but unsure as to why SFL clubs need to meet until Newco officially told to GTF. I think Doncaster - and his real puppet-master at Celtic Park - are way out of their depth trying this. That said, there is on the face of it a credible reason for discussing proposals today. It's July 3rd, if clubs wanted to go with Zombie Rangers + reconstruction then they'd have about four weeks to hold the relevant votes and organisation at every level of the game. It's incredible how late in the day this is developing: Morton for example are starting their pre-season friendlies today... Would like to see more detail on the SFA's position. At the moment it is fucking bizarre to say the least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Tony McKelvie @TonyMcKelvie@bbcjimspence SFA CEO asks "Who's the wee ginger fella in the 3 piece suit hiding underneath the buffet table"? Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coqofthenorth Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Some of those that work forces, are the same that burn crosses. Not sure what you're getting at here but have a greenie for working RATM into the thread 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Northerner Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) It's hardly an apology. He deftly shifts the blame when he says: I apologise unreservedly to all for the distress, disruption and difficulty inflicted on the football community, caused entirely by the actions of people who failed miserably to act responsibly during their stewardship of Rangers. It's a sound enough statement. Blame doesn't equal responsibility. Murray/Whyte are to blame, Rangers(IA)/NewCo have (or will inherit) the responsibility Edited July 3, 2012 by The Old Northerner 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jungle bhoy Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 How much do the tickets go for now? I went to see them in the early eighties and I think the ticket was about a tenner. Seen them in the seventies think it was Farewell to Kings tour at the Apollo,you were robbed if you paid a tenner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beermonkey Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 If SPL clubs wanted to know which way the wind was blowing, they'd only have to do a quick search of the Internet. As it stands Raith, Dunfermline, Morton, Stirling, East Fife, Stranraer, Annan, Peterhead have all openly stated their position as No. There are a few others who are definitely leant towards that too. Eight 'Nos' is enough, which makes me think you have this the wrong way round. This is about that donkey Doncaster and his cronies begging, bribing and cajoling the SFL clubs out of a widely adopted stance. I for one would cheer if the SFL stood firm and tore up every single one of the SPL's precious sponsorship contracts in the process. f**k them: they took all the money out of the lower leagues years ago, time to take the power back to the diddy clubs. Feck me, i'm actually in agreement with vikingtool ! You're still a twat though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) I hope when Doncaster goes he takes you with him. Creepy apologist c**t. Oh goody you're back in opinion Gestapo mode. It wouldn't surprise me at all if EPL, UEFA, infact most deals have such clauses. If I was a TV exec, I wouldn't commit to a 5yr TV deal if the big clubs that generate my viewing figures could all leave 1yr in, or a breakaway division could be formed, etc. etc. Presumably if the clauses were refused then TV would've paid less over these last X years. There's many, many things that've been revealed or have happened in the last 4 months which are outrageous, but the existence of such commercial clauses isn't (IMO) among them. Edited July 3, 2012 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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