craigkillie Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Sky Sports News now reporting that they expect Dundee to replace Rangers, so no zombie Rangers for now Sky have been hopeless throughout this whole saga. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Scotland has a population of 5.2M, where as the UK as a whole has 58.8M. That's 8.8% or roughly 1/11th. Right, but the difference is still marginal, and based on a deeply flawed premise. Under this hypothetically perfect model we'd have ten professional teams getting crowds of 5000 each, evenly smeared around the country, with another sixty part-time teams playing to crowds of between 10 and 30. The best thing about a pyramid is that it would theoretically rebalance the senior teams a bit. Ayrshire is considerably under-represented by senior sides right now, for instance. There's only one of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 I'm in favour of looking at league restructuring and the removal of teams that are a drain on the rest of Scottish football and believe that a sensible approach would be to trial it out gradually. In particular, there are way too many teams playing in the Glasgow area at present and it would therefore make perfect sense just to choose a particular team in that area to be shut down. I'm not sure if there are any teams in that area that are, for example, stuck in the bottom division, are financially struggling and, if such a thing is possible, have never ever won a single trophy (or even match!) in the whole of their history, but that would seem to be to be a very good candidate... I will second that! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Another contender for tomorrow's back page from Graeme Soutar: Picture of Hampden - "Circus Rolls Back Into Town!" #bbcsportsound That's why Ally was there. He's never tried a roll and circus. I thought it was kebeb shops he & wee Durranty frequented when out on the lash? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makepeace Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Nah, nah, he's not Zerzan at all. He's the Una-Bomber... ha ha i genuinely laughed at that... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Right, but the difference is still marginal, and based on a deeply flawed premise. Under this hypothetically perfect model we'd have ten professional teams getting crowds of 5000 each, evenly smeared around the country, with another sixty part-time teams playing to crowds of between 10 and 30. The best thing about a pyramid is that it would theoretically rebalance the senior teams a bit. Ayrshire is considerably under-represented by senior sides right now, for instance. There's only one of them. South Renfrewshire having two? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 By the logic of the 'too many teams brigade', the clubs that go bust should be left to expire in a corner and the leagues should not re-admit them. I wonder how that would sit? In 30 years we'd have two divisions of well-run small town sides with average crowd of 500 that can balance their books. Good or bad? The subtext of 'too many teams', that greedy, grasping clubs like Elgin, Montrose and Annan are starving poor mites like Rangers and Celtic of vital income, is a fallacy. Quite. I wouldn't say we have too many teams but I would say we have too big a professional league set up in that I'd like to see two divisions of 16teams (although more likely to be 14teams) but with a regional pyramid for ALL Clubs to reach the top. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Regan's position 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sting777 Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Why are Sally and Chasbo at this meeting. They are in the SFL!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 It's now being reported that SSN have logged on to The Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread to find out what is happening. Link. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 BBC Scotland's Brian McLauchlin: "Neither Dundee FC or Dunfermline were invited along to SPL agm to state their case for admission to top flight." So why are Sevco represented? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londoner Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Sky have been hopeless throughout this whole saga. Agree now there was some guy outside Hampden talking rubbish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldeejit Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Scotland has a population of 5.2M, where as the UK as a whole has 58.8M. That's 8.8% or roughly 1/11th. Er, no, news just in... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18838540 And Cockwomble's doing PR for retail inScotland now http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-18854603 Social unrest anyone? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Yes... the irony is that you'd likely see 'continuation clubs' in the AFC Wimbledon/FC Utd of Manchester vein started-up, while (taking the Fife United as an example) if it was playing in Dunfermline then you might struggle to replace those turned-off through the demise of the Pars with those from Kirkcaldy/Cowdenbeath/Methil. I'd struggle to make it to Dunfermline if our clubs were ever merged (which they shouldn't be). Fife's public transport links are utterly horrific compared to the rest of Scotland. From where I stay I'd either have to take the bus for an hour and a half, or catch two trains for Dunfermline. Similarly for Cowdenbeath via train. Methil isn't even catered for by the trains. Merging any club in Scotland at the moment would be a poor decision, all our clubs have history (bar one, NewCo ) and are distinguishable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 So why are Sevco represented? They aren't representing Sevco, they are representing oldco. Green is a proxy for them as he was at the previous SPL meeting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Right, but the difference is still marginal, and based on a deeply flawed premise. Under this hypothetically perfect model we'd have ten professional teams getting crowds of 5000 each, evenly smeared around the country, with another sixty part-time teams playing to crowds of between 10 and 30. The best thing about a pyramid is that it would theoretically rebalance the senior teams a bit. Ayrshire is considerably under-represented by senior sides right now, for instance. There's only one of them. Aye, there's distinctly Scottish issues - in terms of population spread, tradition, crowds, quirky history of Senior/Junior football, prevalence of OF support in all towns etc - which defines how many clubs are full-time, how many come from certain areas, etc. We can't just divide England by 10. Certainly a pyramid system would help inject the opportunity for equity. For example there are 2 teams from Dundee but only 1 from Aberdeen and 2 from Edinburgh. There's no team from the Borders. Etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Aye, there's distinctly Scottish issues - in terms of population spread, tradition, crowds, quirky history of Senior/Junior football, prevalence of OF support in all towns etc - which defines how many clubs are full-time, how many come from certain areas, etc. We can't just divide England by 10. Certainly a pyramid system would help inject the opportunity for equity. For example there are 2 teams from Dundee but only 1 from Aberdeen and 2 from Edinburgh. There's no team from the Borders. Etc. Had you been at Dens on Saturday you would realise there's only one team in Dundee. Both sets of fans were claiming this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 They aren't representing Sevco, they are representing oldco. Green is a proxy for them as he was at the previous SPL meeting. So he'll have a vote on accepting himself into something he already has a share in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlasgowCeltic.org Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 They aren't representing Sevco, they are representing oldco. Green is a proxy for them as he was at the previous SPL meeting. Aren't Duff & Phelps supposed to be acting for the creditors? How is spending billable time organising a third party to act as an agent helping the creditors of Rangers FC(IA)? The creditors are essentially paying for Duff and Phelps to be doing work on behalf of a third party who has nothing to do with Rangers FC. WTF? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 So he'll have a vote on accepting himself into something he already has a share in? Yes, it's bizarre when you think about it. Not only could in theory his vote (proxying for OldCo) make-or-break his NewCo getting into SFL3, but his vote for Dundeee / Dunfermline could decide who they play in Challenge Cup!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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