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but thats where the law and common justice dont always meet. the idea that the last guy to decide something must be right....

3 independent guys, none of them judges mind you, but 1 a top qc read those rules and thought they were allowed to create their own punishment.

3 other independent guys, one of them a judge, read the rules and agreed.

1 guy, a judge of no greater importance or experience or reputation, disagreed.

result, 6 1 to team yay and yet team nay wins.

of course the SFA could have appealed the CoS judgement, and by the law of averages, bearing in mind 6 people have said yay and 1 nay, one could guess they would have won, but that would also break FIFA guidelines.

Only grey area is the fact the SFA rules ostensibly say you can't appeal the tribunal itself, and thus both CAS + CoS were debarred... which in cases where it's SFA itself imposing a punishment means it's not possible to get a hearing off a 3rd party. That, in turn, isn't really very just.

Of course a legitimate counter is why Rangers went running to CoS, opposed to CAS.

Ultimately, stepping aside from the particular case in question for a moment, the obvious solution going forward is to reinforce in SFA rules the avenue to CAS. It'd also be positive if CAS speeded-up when considering minor cases, but that's a bigger issue.

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According to the groomers website.. They all say that.. A mother at fecking 11.. You are a paedophile.. The Moderators should kick you out.. suggesting an 11 year olds a mother.. You are sick and should be booted from this forum..

Is that your final, final, final post?

Are you Nurse Hoddit?

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Welcome - decent first post that sums it up for me.

Now. You're not another nurse are you?

Thanks for the welcome

No. I'm a bean counter. Unfortunately not on the insolvency side as i would like to know the legal position re Greens proposed takeover.

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That really doesn't matter. Why is football so fucking precious? Why are you yet another 'civi court' lickspittle? The SFA have a process and the Court of Session - with no football bias or prejudice - found that process lacking. This should be something we all celebrate.

The bad thing for Rangers may well be expulsion. The good thing for sane people is that football authorities are held to account.

I don't think you know the meaning of the word lickspittle. it means being obsequious to those in power. You're being more of a lickspittle with regards to the CoS than anyone else on here. You're the one inferring that the CoS is the be all and end all.

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That really doesn't matter. Why is football so fucking precious? Why are you yet another 'civi court' lickspittle? The SFA have a process and the Court of Session - with no football bias or prejudice - found that process lacking. This should be something we all celebrate.

The bad thing for Rangers may well be expulsion. The good thing for sane people is that football authorities are held to account.

If Rangers didn't agree with the authority of an independent panel to impose such sanctions why did they sign up to be bound by it and why didn't they object to it earlier?.

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Oh did I not say.. Have 3 older children aged 26, 25 and 23.. You seem excited thinking my 11 year old is a mother.. you are actually scary.. are you a paedophile..Passing you details to police

Wow it took ages before he brought out the paedo-finder general stuff, I don't think he is from RM after all :rolleyes:

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of course the SFA could have appealed the CoS judgement, and by the law of averages, bearing in mind 6 people have said yay and 1 nay, one could guess they would have won, but that would also break FIFA guidelines.

Sure the SFA could have appealed. I really wish that they did. They may well have won. Call it a 50/50 chance?

What is sinister, though, is why they didn't appeal. Had they appealed they'd have faced FIFA's wrath for using 'the civil courts'. Don't you think that is utterly crap? Why can't Scotland's FA and one of Scotland's football clubs use Scotland's legal resources to decide on a procedural disagreement?

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The CoS's role was to help The SFA's panel interpret its own rules since it was incapable of doing so itself.

That was the angle Paul McBride came from over Lennon's two dugout bans. The difference was that it was pursued through the SFA's own channels.

For sane people a civil court is a good thing. It means that there is some sort of accountability and pressure on the SFA to adhere to its own processes.

The aforementioned dugout ban appeal seemed to suggest that the SFA could be made accountable without having to resort to the courts.

Any idea that 'It's a private club so we can do what we like' just flies in the face of common justice.

Rangers entered that private club in full knowledge that their contract forbade them from pursuing internal matters of compliance through the courts. It's not like they just ticked a license box on a website to get in. That said, there is no fixed penalty for pursuing matters outside of court, and that is presumably precisely because it is occasionally the right thing to do. On this occasion it was outright counterproductive given the strong indication from the tribunal that the transfer ban was a novel attempt to come up with a severe punishment that fell short of yanking Rangers' membership entirely.

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