Paramour Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Two and a half plus decades of spend spend spend to put everyone else into their place below them in their shadow so to speak. That's nearly two generations of Rangers supporters only ever used to their club outspending everybody else to win cups and titles by any means possibly and to fcuk with how they achieve them honours. Any Rangers supporter younger than 35 years old will never have known any other way to win titles and cups, facing austerity and cut backs to stay solvent isn't within their mindset. This is why today you hear them praying, screaming, hoping and any other source that will just pump money into a black abyss so they carry on just as they used to do signing big name players and winning cups n titles so they get their fix. This incarnation of a Rangers FC faces total oblivion if no one comes in with countless millions to spend on their club because the fans certainly won't put their hands into their pockets because they are so used to having a sugar daddy do it for them. The fans themselves with unreachable standards and goals will eventually kill off the club itself just as the other version that is being liquidated. They just can't or won't face having a club in mediocrity mid table being regularly shafted by clubs living within their means on smaller budgets. No endless amounts of money being pumped into the club, no winning everything every other year, no European especially Champions League appearances and you can expect them to fcuk off and not attending Ibrox until someone with gazillions of cash to throw into the black financial abyss to give them what they have been used to for two and a half decades. It's the fans that are the problem, not the club. Their expectations of being a Rangers supporter and the club they follow are two completely different things entirely. Successful club plenty of fans, shite club not much money and having mid table aspirations then no fans, protests, boycotts and so on. They are killing their club. Entirely agree. And, to boot, your best post for a long time. Rangers are being killed by the very 'culture' they celebrate, so closely entwined is their sectarian supremacy with the primal belief that they are in some and every way by definition superior to anyone who doesn't celebrate them. If this culture had been achieved without financially doping then it's bad enough; that the last two decades of success were very much built on clay readily demonstrates why they are so utterly and comprehensively mocked today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Two and a half plus decades of spend spend spend to put everyone else into their place below them in their shadow so to speak. That's nearly two generations of Rangers supporters only ever used to their club outspending everybody else to win cups and titles by any means possibly and to fcuk with how they achieve them honours. Any Rangers supporter younger than 35 years old will never have known any other way to win titles and cups, facing austerity and cut backs to stay solvent isn't within their mindset. This is why today you hear them praying, screaming, hoping and any other source that will just pump money into a black abyss so they carry on just as they used to do signing big name players and winning cups n titles so they get their fix. This incarnation of a Rangers FC faces total oblivion if no one comes in with countless millions to spend on their club because the fans certainly won't put their hands into their pockets because they are so used to having a sugar daddy do it for them. The fans themselves with unreachable standards and goals will eventually kill off the club itself just as the other version that is being liquidated. They just can't or won't face having a club in mediocrity mid table being regularly shafted by clubs living within their means on smaller budgets. No endless amounts of money being pumped into the club, no winning everything every other year, no European especially Champions League appearances and you can expect them to fcuk off and not attending Ibrox until someone with gazillions of cash to throw into the black financial abyss to give them what they have been used to for two and a half decades. It's the fans that are the problem, not the club. Their expectations of being a Rangers supporter and the club they follow are two completely different things entirely. Successful club plenty of fans, shite club not much money and having mid table aspirations then no fans, protests, boycotts and so on. They are killing their club. And the cherry on the cake, is the supporters continue to deny,deflect,whitaboot and pathetically sneer simply because that is ALL they can do without radically altering their WATP mindset. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 @BBCchrismclaug: Stewart Regan confirms discussions ongoing with Dave King re fit and proper. Admits tax convictions mean it will be a 'challenge' for him. - You mean it not all sorted for Mr G&S........well I'm shocked! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Two and a half plus decades of spend spend spend to put everyone else into their place below them in their shadow so to speak. That's nearly two generations of Rangers supporters only ever used to their club outspending everybody else to win cups and titles by any means possibly and to fcuk with how they achieve them honours. Any Rangers supporter younger than 35 years old will never have known any other way to win titles and cups, facing austerity and cut backs to stay solvent isn't within their mindset. This is why today you hear them praying, screaming, hoping and any other source that will just pump money into a black abyss so they carry on just as they used to do signing big name players and winning cups n titles so they get their fix. This incarnation of a Rangers FC faces total oblivion if no one comes in with countless millions to spend on their club because the fans certainly won't put their hands into their pockets because they are so used to having a sugar daddy do it for them. The fans themselves with unreachable standards and goals will eventually kill off the club itself just as the other version that is being liquidated. They just can't or won't face having a club in mediocrity mid table being regularly shafted by clubs living within their means on smaller budgets. No endless amounts of money being pumped into the club, no winning everything every other year, no European especially Champions League appearances and you can expect them to fcuk off and not attending Ibrox until someone with gazillions of cash to throw into the black financial abyss to give them what they have been used to for two and a half decades. It's the fans that are the problem, not the club. Their expectations of being a Rangers supporter and the club they follow are two completely different things entirely. Successful club plenty of fans, shite club not much money and having mid table aspirations then no fans, protests, boycotts and so on. They are killing their club. It's fucking glorious, isn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 @BBCchrismclaug: Stewart Regan confirms discussions ongoing with Dave King re fit and proper. Admits tax convictions mean it will be a 'challenge' for him. - You mean it not all sorted for Mr G&S........well I'm shocked! Tax convictions didn't stop Raygun, Cockwomble et al from their participation in the Tribute Act mythology... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Tax convictions didn't stop Raygun, Cockwomble et al from their participation in the Tribute Act mythology... But but but....why did you not save us from Craig Whyte. The SFA are to blame for letting him take control. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Stewart Regan has never heard of confidentiality then....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 King and Ashley fighting over Rangers....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 It seems the GASL is looking for the SFA to deny him the chance to take up the directorship, he's made it clear that he has no intention of spunking the kids inheritance by his GAS pronouncements since taking over the reins. King is looking for a face saving excuse to back out and it appears the SFA are going to provide him with one. Meanwhile Bennett is bleating about "confidentiality", it seems "transparency" can take a back seat when it suits. So now I don't know whether I want King in or out. Not that what I want will make a blind bit of difference. I'll just sit back with the popcorn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accietilleyedye Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Stewart Regan has never heard of confidentiality then....... What no one was aware that King and/or Rangers were in discussions with the SFA about him not being fit and proper 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Densboy with inside scoop on Dave king and Rangers, he really is a boon to this forum. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Dave King. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I tried to warn the Orcs Ashley was not someone who should be slighted, I was told to stop passing opinion facts. They can't read between the lines. Their 2nd death will be glorious. They're Orcs, not Hobbitses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 FAO hbqc gonnae translate this legal mumbo jumbo? Thursday, 16 April 2015 Alleged Party in Breach: Rangers FC Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached: Disciplinary Rule 1: All members shall: (b) be subject to and comply with (i) the Articles (ii) this protocol. (f) behave towards the Scottish FA and other members with the utmost good faith. Disciplinary Rule 19: Except with the prior written consent of the Board: (a) no club or nominee of a club; and (b) no person, whether absolutely or as a trustee, either alone or in conjunction with one or more associates or solely through an associate or associates (even where such person has no formal interest), who: (i) is a member of a club; or (ii) is involved in any capacity whatsoever in the management or administration of a club, or (iii) has any power whatsoever to influence the management or administration or a club, may at the same time either directly or indirectly:- (a) be a member of another club; or (b) be involved in any capacity whatsoever in the management or administration of another club; or © have any power whatsoever to influence the management or administration of another club. Outcomes: Disciplinary Rule 1: Breach admitted. A fine of £5,000 was imposed. Disciplinary Rule 19: Breach admitted. A fine of £500 was imposed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accietilleyedye Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) FAO hbqc gonnae translate this legal mumbo jumbo? Thursday, 16 April 2015 Alleged Party in Breach: Rangers FC Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached: Disciplinary Rule 1: All members shall: (b) be subject to and comply with (i) the Articles (ii) this protocol. (f) behave towards the Scottish FA and other members with the utmost good faith. Disciplinary Rule 19: Except with the prior written consent of the Board: (a) no club or nominee of a club; and (b) no person, whether absolutely or as a trustee, either alone or in conjunction with one or more associates or solely through an associate or associates (even where such person has no formal interest), who: (i) is a member of a club; or (ii) is involved in any capacity whatsoever in the management or administration of a club, or (iii) has any power whatsoever to influence the management or administration or a club, may at the same time either directly or indirectly:- (a) be a member of another club; or (b) be involved in any capacity whatsoever in the management or administration of another club; or © have any power whatsoever to influence the management or administration of another club. Outcomes: Disciplinary Rule 1: Breach admitted. A fine of £5,000 was imposed. Disciplinary Rule 19: Breach admitted. A fine of £500 was imposed In terms an idiot like you might be able to understand , the current board have admitted(with prejudice ) that they don't want an investigation into the old board and if that old board were influenced by Mike Ashley edit to add that was for the £500 fine the other one was they were just admitting they tried to take the pish out of the SFA Edited April 16, 2015 by accietilleyedye 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribzanelli Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 FAO hbqc gonnae translate this legal mumbo jumbo? Thursday, 16 April 2015 Alleged Party in Breach: Rangers FC Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached: Disciplinary Rule 1: All members shall: (b) be subject to and comply with (i) the Articles (ii) this protocol. (f) behave towards the Scottish FA and other members with the utmost good faith. Disciplinary Rule 19: Except with the prior written consent of the Board: (a) no club or nominee of a club; and (b) no person, whether absolutely or as a trustee, either alone or in conjunction with one or more associates or solely through an associate or associates (even where such person has no formal interest), who: (i) is a member of a club; or (ii) is involved in any capacity whatsoever in the management or administration of a club, or (iii) has any power whatsoever to influence the management or administration or a club, may at the same time either directly or indirectly:- (a) be a member of another club; or (b) be involved in any capacity whatsoever in the management or administration of another club; or © have any power whatsoever to influence the management or administration of another club. Outcomes: Disciplinary Rule 1: Breach admitted. A fine of £5,000 was imposed. Disciplinary Rule 19: Breach admitted. A fine of £500 was imposed Loads of mentions of club in there, should it not be company? It's almost as if the whole club company separation thing was a, nah forget it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Unfortunately, if your team had been through what Rangers have they would have died and stayed dead. The powers that be would not have cheated the rest of Scottish football by shoehorning an imitation tribute act version of QOS straight into the professional leagues. The inevitable social unrest and Armageddon would have been more localised in Dumfriesshire with the odd loan wolf in far off places, like Falkirk. It wouldn't have got Regan excited. Newcastle, surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Obviously faked ... King has not managed to get anywhere near the meat He's the vulture....... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 FAO hbqc gonnae translate this legal mumbo jumbo? Thursday, 16 April 2015 Alleged Party in Breach: Rangers FC Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached: Disciplinary Rule 1: All members shall: (b) be subject to and comply with (i) the Articles (ii) this protocol. (f) behave towards the Scottish FA and other members with the utmost good faith. Disciplinary Rule 19: Except with the prior written consent of the Board: (a) no club or nominee of a club; and (b) no person, whether absolutely or as a trustee, either alone or in conjunction with one or more associates or solely through an associate or associates (even where such person has no formal interest), who: (i) is a member of a club; or (ii) is involved in any capacity whatsoever in the management or administration of a club, or (iii) has any power whatsoever to influence the management or administration or a club, may at the same time either directly or indirectly:- (a) be a member of another club; or (b) be involved in any capacity whatsoever in the management or administration of another club; or © have any power whatsoever to influence the management or administration of another club. Outcomes: Disciplinary Rule 1: Breach admitted. A fine of £5,000 was imposed. Disciplinary Rule 19: Breach admitted. A fine of £500 was imposed Why are you asking me ?, shouldn't you be getting out your old enigma machine to decode it for you ??? It is pretty clear cut and concise, the club breached the SFA's rules and regulations and got fined, what's more to understand ?, other than it has depleted Sevco's finances by £5,500. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 With pay day and the bills needing paid I expect some slight of hand with words coming from Gestapo HQ down Govan way. If the 3 stooges stump up with the cash for this months bills I'll expect the club to issue a club statement proclaiming the good guys have given the club/company another £1.5 million in unsecured loans to help the club limp along into next month. Or I'll expect after they have been forced to take the second tranche of the £10 million from SD they will not say anything or release anything at all. Nothing will be released period about how the bills this month were met. It will be business as usual with the P&B collective asking where and how did they get the cash to pay off the hounds at the door for this months bills. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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