xbl Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 The UK is yep. We're in the EU too. With special terms. Good to be in the UK eh? I know you are pleased. Ah, so Scotland ARE in the EU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Ah, so Scotland ARE in the EU? Nope. Scots are in the EU though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Nope. Scots are in the EU though. I refer to my signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deky Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Only for a year. Keeping it warm for Boris? My point still satnds, the UK PM should state his case for the union in a debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 OK - what is the story the usual suspects are trying to bury today with the pointless EU debate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted June 17, 2013 Author Share Posted June 17, 2013 The lead story on the Herald Website http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/yes-scotland-says-women-and-young-shifting-to-independence.21359529 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 And suddenly the mass unionist panic becomes clear. Not only that, but it shows why Better Together is now trying to mimic the Yes campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 OK - what is the story the usual suspects are trying to bury today with the pointless EU debate? Typical Nat response to be honest. And quite disappointing. It becomes a "sweep sweep" session, when it is illustrated that Nationalist politicians, like Nicola Sturgeon, will happily lie to voters, and the SNP will perform a volte face after having lied to voters in the past. There wouldn't be any "EU debate" if the SNP hadn't lied to people. It's fortunate there are enough non-seals here to point this out to people reading the debate, who might otherwise assume, from the fanboy adulation, that the SNP did not in fact engage in lies and deception to avoid perfectly reasonable questions. The EU problem the Nats face is one entirely of their own making. Had they been up front from the start it would be a non issue. The fact they now have almost the correct position, after years of lying, indicates this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthAyrshireKillie Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Typical Nat response to be honest. And quite disappointing. It becomes a "sweep sweep" session, when it is illustrated that Nationalist politicians, like Nicola Sturgeon, will happily lie to voters, and the SNP will perform a volte face after having lied to voters in the past. There wouldn't be any "EU debate" if the SNP hadn't lied to people. It's fortunate there are enough non-seals here to point this out to people reading the debate, who might otherwise assume, from the fanboy adulation, that the SNP did not in fact engage in lies and deception to avoid perfectly reasonable questions. The EU problem the Nats face is one entirely of their own making. Had they been up front from the start it would be a non issue. The fact they now have almost the correct position, after years of lying, indicates this. But... but .... but the Unionist parties would never lie to the people, you know about going to war and stuff. Would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 But... but .... but the Unionist parties would never lie to the people, you know about going to war and stuff. Would they? Of course they would. They are politicians. All politicans lie. SNP politicians are no more, or less, trustworthy than their opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthAyrshireKillie Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Of course they would. They are politicians. All politicans lie. SNP politicians are no more, or less, trustworthy than their opponents. Ok, so why are you so opposed to the SNP when they are all just big fat politician liars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I refer to my signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Ok, so why are you so opposed to the SNP when they are all just big fat politician liars I'm not opposed to the SNP. I voted for the SNP in the last Scottish elections. It's important though, especially when the commentary on the SNP on this website is generally fawning and adulatory, that when politicans lie, like Nicola Sturgeon, it is pointed out, so people can decide on their trustworthiness. This is also true of the Unionist politicans. Tony Blair for example, being a known liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie guevara Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 More fabrication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I'm not opposed to the SNP. I voted for the SNP in the last Scottish elections. It's important though, especially when the commentary on the SNP on this website is generally fawning and adulatory, that when politicans lie, like Nicola Sturgeon, it is pointed out, so people can decide on their trustworthiness. This is also true of the Unionist politicans. Tony Blair for example, being a known liar. So your point is that all politicians lie. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Keeping it warm for Boris? My point still satnds, the UK PM should state his case for the union in a debate. The UK PM can have an opinion on the subject. All he can really do now is nip away from afar and he can't vote on the subject unless he swiftly moves residence. A bit like one or two posters in here. He isn't running any campaign for the union, I'm fairly sure he wants the union to remain in place but his involvement was to hand complete ontrol over the subject to Holyrood, and ultimately to the Scottish people. He can now sit back, spark up a huge doob and laugh at Salmond wriggling around like a big fat worm dangling on a hook of his own making after swallowing the bait Cameron laid for him. He did all he needed to do, and went away. Boris won't be PM even if he finds himself a constituency and wins a seat at the next general election. He wouldn't be leader of the party and the Tories aren't going to win a majority anyway. He will have more chance of reintroducing wooden tennis raquets into mens professional tennis I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthAyrshireKillie Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I'm not opposed to the SNP. I voted for the SNP in the last Scottish elections. It's important though, especially when the commentary on the SNP on this website is generally fawning and adulatory, that when politicans lie, like Nicola Sturgeon, it is pointed out, so people can decide on their trustworthiness. This is also true of the Unionist politicans. Tony Blair for example, being a known liar. New Labour was essentially one big lie. If they are all as untrustworthy as each other in your opinion, how do you decide who to vote for then? Answer this, would Scotland be better off with people who live in and were born in Scotland making the policy's and decisions that affect the future in Scotland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 More fabrication Its that sort of blog to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reynard Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 New Labour was essentially one big lie. If they are all as untrustworthy as each other in your opinion, how do you decide who to vote for then? Answer this, would Scotland be better off with people who live in and were born in Scotland making the policy's and decisions that affect the future in Scotland? If he is anything like me, he will look at the assortment of politicians standing for his constituency and then plump for the least worst option (he hopes). In the Scottish parliament list system you just have to hope you get someone competant. You rarely ever do though. Or maybe he just goes in and draws a giant cock and balls on the ballot paper. It registers as a "vote" in the turnout but doesn't give anyone any encouragement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deky Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 The UK PM can have an opinion on the subject. All he can really do now is nip away from afar and he can't vote on the subject unless he swiftly moves residence. A bit like one or two posters in here. He isn't running any campaign for the union, I'm fairly sure he wants the union to remain in place but his involvement was to hand complete ontrol over the subject to Holyrood, and ultimately to the Scottish people. He can now sit back, spark up a huge doob and laugh at Salmond wriggling around like a big fat worm dangling on a hook of his own making after swallowing the bait Cameron laid for him. He did all he needed to do, and went away. Boris won't be PM even if he finds himself a constituency and wins a seat at the next general election. He wouldn't be leader of the party and the Tories aren't going to win a majority anyway. He will have more chance of reintroducing wooden tennis raquets into mens professional tennis I reckon. He is the leader of the union a no vote will leave us part of. What is he affraid of? As for Boris, hopefully he'll not be our problem soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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