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Hope McInnes is bluffing, but if not it's time to play McGinn as a striker again. He's a proven goalscorer and we have plenty cover on either flank. Main looks woeful and turns like a boat, May is impotent and Wilson is either unfit or disinterested (although only getting 10 mins at the weekend was a farce). 

 

 

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10 hours ago, AFCDannyFTH said:

it's time to play McGinn as a striker again

 

 

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As much as I rate him on the wing I always found it slightly strange that he scored 20 odd goals in a season playing up front, then we never played him there again.

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Hopefully the last four games have shown the board that we desperately need to recruit more players before the window shuts. We are severely lacking at Centre back and Centre mid. Greig Leigh has been suspect over the last three legs and is a bit of a liability defensively, so a left back would be good also. 

The next two weeks are pivotal for McInnes' future here (if he has one) and the success of the team this season. It's sad that pretty much all of the early optimism has disappeared. 

The body language of pretty much the whole squad over the last few games (since McKenna's transfer request) suggests that all is not well in our changing room. We are badly needing a leader in the middle of the park to keep everyone on the same page with their heads up. Lewis is probably our best player, a great person and role model. It is near impossible for a keeper as captain to exert any pressure on the opposition/refs etc. Shinnie was always going to be tough to replace as a leader but Joe isn't the answer.

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1 hour ago, AFCDannyFTH said:

Hopefully the last four games have shown the board that we desperately need to recruit more players before the window shuts. We are severely lacking at Centre back and Centre mid. Greig Leigh has been suspect over the last three legs and is a bit of a liability defensively, so a left back would be good also. 

The next two weeks are pivotal for McInnes' future here (if he has one) and the success of the team this season. It's sad that pretty much all of the early optimism has disappeared. 

The body language of pretty much the whole squad over the last few games (since McKenna's transfer request) suggests that all is not well in our changing room. We are badly needing a leader in the middle of the park to keep everyone on the same page with their heads up. Lewis is probably our best player, a great person and role model. It is near impossible for a keeper as captain to exert any pressure on the opposition/refs etc. Shinnie was always going to be tough to replace as a leader but Joe isn't the answer.

Shinnie wasn't even on the bench for derbys first game. The manager change is really bad timing for him, doesn't seem to be in Cocus plans. I wouldn't be all that surprised go see him out on loan and I'd easy gave him back at the dons.

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1 hour ago, GTG_03 said:

Shinnie wasn't even on the bench for derbys first game. The manager change is really bad timing for him, doesn't seem to be in Cocus plans. I wouldn't be all that surprised go see him out on loan and I'd easy gave him back at the dons.

Managers change like underwear in that league - anyone going into it without a proven track record at that level is taking a huge risk.

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4 hours ago, AFCDannyFTH said:

Hopefully the last four games have shown the board that we desperately need to recruit more players before the window shuts. We are severely lacking at Centre back and Centre mid. Greig Leigh has been suspect over the last three legs and is a bit of a liability defensively, so a left back would be good also. 

The next two weeks are pivotal for McInnes' future here (if he has one) and the success of the team this season. It's sad that pretty much all of the early optimism has disappeared. 

The body language of pretty much the whole squad over the last few games (since McKenna's transfer request) suggests that all is not well in our changing room. We are badly needing a leader in the middle of the park to keep everyone on the same page with their heads up. Lewis is probably our best player, a great person and role model. It is near impossible for a keeper as captain to exert any pressure on the opposition/refs etc. Shinnie was always going to be tough to replace as a leader but Joe isn't the answer.

I think this is slightly dramatic.

I suspect our budget is such that anyone else coming in will be your shite loans that most of us hate. Defensive cover is a worry given Devlin's injury problems and Logan's regression. Vyner may turn out to be adequate cover but early signs at St Mirren weren't great.

Centre midfield I think we're not too bad to be honest. Ojo, Ferguson and a fully fit Bryson are a very good first choice 3, and we have cover in Gallagher, Campbell and Wright at a stretch.

Your last paragraph is total conjecture, yes yesterday we lacked confidence and looked fatigued but it's a huge leap to say all not well in the dressing room based on that. You wouldn't have said that 2 weeks ago, I think people just get over excited.

A week now to freshen up and work on things on the training ground. A quicker tempo to our play, players getting closer to Cosgrove, being less one dimensional/predictable in attack and start building some confidence into the back 4 that looked very uncertain yesterday.

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I think the leadership thing is a red herring, in all honesty. Bryson started yesterday, hugely experienced professional and probably signed as Shinnie's replacement, but we looked lost and rudderless even with him on the park. Across the back we had Considine, a hugely experienced former club captain, McKenna, who has captained his country and deputised for us, and Logan, another experienced and vocal player. We then have the likes of Ojo, hundreds of senior games, and McGinn, another hugely experienced player with hundreds of games for us and over fifty international caps.

We shouldn't be short on outfield leaders, and I don't think the goalkeeper having the armband is, or should be, any sort of issue - the likes of Shinnie, Hayes, McLean and Rooney, for example, proved time and again that they could play a captain's role, including keeping at the officials, when Jack had it. 

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7 minutes ago, DrewDon said:

I think the leadership thing is a red herring, in all honesty. Bryson started yesterday, hugely experienced professional and probably signed as Shinnie's replacement, but we looked lost and rudderless even with him on the park. Across the back we had Considine, a hugely experienced former club captain, McKenna, who has captained his country and deputised for us, and Logan, another experienced and vocal player. We then have the likes of Ojo, hundreds of senior games, and McGinn, another hugely experienced player with hundreds of games for us and over fifty international caps.

We shouldn't be short on outfield leaders, and I don't think the goalkeeper having the armband is, or should be, any sort of issue - the likes of Shinnie, Hayes, McLean and Rooney, for example, proved time and again that they could play a captain's role, including keeping at the officials, when Jack had it. 

Nobody was willing to take up the leadership role on Sunday though, when the shit was hitting the fan. 

Second half, 1-0 down, free kicks around the half way line and every c**t bar Lewis was sauntering up towards the opposition box.  Eventually somebody realised someone had to take the free kick.   Happened on more than one occasion.  Im not convinced with having a goalie as your captain in these situations as Lewis was 50 yards away from everyone.

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Guest Bob Mahelp

At this moment in time, we're playing a 4-5-1 formation with Ojo just in front of the defence. The problem comes because a midfield of Ferguson/McGinn/Gallagher/Hedges don't actually know what they're meant to be doing. 

McInnes always wants players to hug the wings and try to come inside, but this means that McGinn and Hedges are disappearing from the game too often. Ferguson sits in the centre circle and for me needs to be pushing 20 yards further forward. Gallagher offers energy but given that he's a right back come utility player, it['s still hard to work out what he's there to do. 

All of this confusion in midfield means that Cosgrove has been left completely isolated and we simply haven't been able to create enough chances over the last 4 games. Our 'Plan A' of having everything going through Funjo has already been found out by the likes of St Mirren and Dundee, and we seem to have no Plan B.

It goes completely against the grain for McInnes, but he needs to start looking at 2 up front to give us a chance to actually create chances and to win games. Drop Gallagher to the bench and bring in Wilson. Switch the formation to a more traditional 4-4-2 and encourage Ferguson to stop playing so deep. 

Stop making it so feckin easy for teams to nullify us, and if it doesn't work, change it. 

 

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10 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said:

All of this confusion in midfield means that Cosgrove has been left completely isolated and we simply haven't been able to create enough chances over the last 4 games. Our 'Plan A' of having everything going through Funjo has already been found out by the likes of St Mirren and Dundee, and we seem to have no Plan B.

It goes completely against the grain for McInnes, but he needs to start looking at 2 up front to give us a chance to actually create chances and to win games. Drop Gallagher to the bench and bring in Wilson. Switch the formation to a more traditional 4-4-2 and encourage Ferguson to stop playing so deep. 

Stop making it so feckin easy for teams to nullify us, and if it doesn't work, change it. 

 

I agree with this although we don't necessarily need to go 442, but I would get Wilson in possibly playing that more advanced midfield role, he'd naturally play closer to Sam and he's capable of drifting wide and allowing Mcginn/Hedges to come more central. He also offers a different type of threat.

I said it on Sunday we must be so easy to defend against, it's such a structured way of playing and we're really relying on something just falling for us. Especially when the build up play was so slow, Dundee must have been laughing.

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