tarapoa Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: Jack was a brilliant player for us, massively underrated. Anyone suggesting we wouldn't miss him at the time was trying far too hard. Agree with this. He was particularly good around 2014/15 time - recall the Sociedad game and him looking the only player that could fit into the La Liga side's style, and didn't just look like an SPL player trying their hardest. Everton, Roma and Napoli were reported to be sniffing around at the time - and from his point of view, that would have been a much better career move than flat-track bullying his way around Sevco's midfield in a middle-ranking league like ours. Russell Anderson and Eoin Jess wanted the club to get some return on them. Jack was made club captain, but chose to let his contract run down and leave for nothing. It was a big two-fingers up at his home city - and it also seems to be a strangely prevalent pastime of north-east born supporters of Glasgow-based clubs to do this......... Edited March 15, 2021 by tarapoa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d31 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, tarapoa said: Agree with this. From his point of view, he was particularly good around 2014/15 time - recall the Sociedad game and him looking the only player that could fit into the La Liga side's style, and didn't just look like an SPL player trying their hardest. Everton, Roma and Napoli were reported to be sniffing around at the time - and from his point of view, that would have been a much better career move than flat-track bullying his way around Sevco's midfield in a middle-ranking league like ours. Russell Anderson and Eoin Jess wanted the club to get some return on them. Jack was made club captain, but chose to let his contract run down and leave for nothing. It was a big two-fingers up at his home city - and it also seems to be a strangely prevalent pastime of north-east born supporters of Glasgow-based clubs to do this......... McInnes and Milne were part of the problem with deliberately letting players run down contracts rather than marketing them. That will change under Cormack and it should see us grow as a club. We should be following the Celtic model on a smaller scale and aiming to shift a player around about one per season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: Jack was a brilliant player for us, massively underrated. Anyone suggesting we wouldn't miss him at the time was trying far too hard. I remember that after the three European rounds in the summer of 2015, I was quaking it that Jack would get picked up by someone bigger before the end of that transfer window. He was magnificent in our away games, and in particular at Rijeka, if I remember correctly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiJock Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: Jack was a brilliant player for us, massively underrated. Anyone suggesting we wouldn't miss him at the time was trying far too hard. I rated him when we had him, but i was always frustrated how passive he seemed to be. He wasn't a fighter or a combustive sort at all for us and often seemed meekly quiet and efficient in games. Don't remember him instigating or winning any battles against Scott Brown or other similar players. As soon as he went to Rangers he seemed to get an attitude/chip on his shoulder and grew into a much more effective midfielder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Don't see what the problem Aberdeen fans have with Jack. He has always been a The Rangers fan, since they formed. Scott Wright on the other hand.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 hours ago, johnnydun said: Don't see what the problem Aberdeen fans have with Jack. He has always been a The Rangers fan, since they formed. Scott Wright on the other hand.... A bit weird that. Choosing to support a newly formed team whilst you're already a professional footballer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbrush1903 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) On 13/03/2021 at 17:53, Merkland Red said: Was listening to the radio this afternoon and they had clips of whatever podcast it is the RedTV guys do on a Friday night. Thought Andrew Shinie was making several comments which could come back to bite his arse, especially if we hire Glass. The type of comments that you think are fair and balanced until you remember he's been an absolute cheerleader for the club, even more so when we'd been total shite under Derek at the end. I was fairly critical of Dave Cormack's hiring of Rob McLean last summer when the club were complaining of financial difficulties. However, after listening to this podcast, I now realise that I was wrong. Shine & Macdermid sounded like Smashie & Nicey after their show was cancelled which itself was a send up of the Dave Lee Travis outburst as he resigned from Radio 1 before he was sacked. These two don't rock the boat. As described above, they're cheerleaders, unquestioning and snuggled up nice and tight to the club as they suck the AFC teat for all they're worth. However, in this podcast we hear pangs of bitterness at the way Derek McInnes left the club. Very unusual or is it? These pair of parasites have done very nicely during the Derek McInnes/Stewart Milne era. For example, a regular three jaunts away in Europe at the club's expense each summer, travelling up and down the country at the club's expense, and best seats in the house to watch games at Pittodrie. However, suddenly last summer the club decides that the RedTV should have a more professional sheen to the amateurish musings of these pair of sycophants. Now Smashie & Nicey start to see their cosy little number getting broken up so their noses are already out of joint by the time Cormack puts the heads of Messrs McInnes & Docherty on the chopping block. Consequently, we start to hear a bit of rebellion from Smashie & Nicey, with the now real threat that they will be cut loose from the club completely. So now it's all what do the supporters expect? and we've had it so good that we better be careful for what we wish for...Semi-finals, the odd cup final, a trophy every 10-15 years, European football until mid-August when the competition starts for real, 3rd or 4th place league positions, that's what McInnes delivered and that's Aberdeen at it's absolute peak. Nobody can come in and do any better. Indeed Smashie (Shinie) said that if Celtic hadn't been in the competitions we would have won cups galore and we'd be building a statue to McInnes not sacking him. Perhaps somebody should have told him that it wasn't just Celtic that was turfing as out of the Cups. Nor, do I know of a statue in existence for a man that led us to three league titles, three Scottish Cups on the bounce and another a year after, two European trophies and a League Cup. These two couldn't care a jot about Aberdeen. In my opinion, they're just a pair of self-serving parasites who are perfectly happy at the status quo as long as they reap their benefits and get to call the players by their first name. Dave Cormack would do well to get rid of these two. The club should be about striving to be better and there's no reason why the club and the fans shouldn't aim high. All Smashie & Nicey did was trot out the West Coast themes of know your place and accept that The Gruesome Twosome win all the trophies. For me, that's a sackable offence (if indeed they are employed by the club which I don't know if they are?).. The only person to speak with any degree of positivity in this podcast was Lee Mair. I won't even start on Darren Young or my blood pressure will be sky high. Edited March 15, 2021 by Bogbrush1903 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 11 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said: I was fairly critical of Dave Cormack's hiring of Rob McLean last summer when the club were complaining of financial difficulties. However, after listening to this podcast, I now realise that I was wrong. Shine & Macdermid sounded like Smashie & Nicey after their show was cancelled which itself was a send up of the Dave Lee Travis outburst as he resigned from Radio 1 before he was sacked. These two don't rock the boat. As described above, they're cheerleaders, unquestioning and snuggled up nice and tight to the club as they suck the AFC teat for all they're worth. However, in this podcast we hear pangs of bitterness at the way Derek McInnes left the club. Very unusual or is it? These pair of parasites have done very nicely during the Derek McInnes/Stewart Milne era. For example, a regular three jaunts away in Europe at the club's expense each summer, travelling up and down the country at the club's expense, and best seats in the house to watch games at Pittodrie. However, suddenly last summer the club decides that the RedTV should have a more professional sheen to the amateurish musings of these pair of sycophants. Now Smashie & Nicey start to see their cosy little number getting broken up so their noses are already out of joint by the time Cormack puts the heads of Messrs McInnes & Docherty on the chopping block. Consequently, we start to hear a bit of rebellion from Smashie & Nicey, with the now real threat that they will be cut loose from the club completely. So now it's all what do the supporters expect? and we've had it so good that we better be careful for what we wish for...Semi-finals, the odd cup final, a trophy every 10-15 years, European football until mid-August when the competition starts for real, 3rd or 4th place league positions, that's what McInnes delivered and that's Aberdeen at it's absolute peak. Nobody can come in and do any better. Indeed Smashie (Shinie) said that if Celtic hadn't been in the competitions we would have won cups galore and we'd be building a statue to McInnes not sacking him. Perhaps somebody should have told him that it wasn't just Celtic that was turfing as out of the Cups. Nor, do I know of a statue in existence for a man that led us to three league titles, three Scottish Cups on the bounce and another a year after, two European trophies and a League Cup. These two couldn't care a jot about Aberdeen. In my opinion, they're just a pair of self-serving parasites who are perfectly happy at the status quo as long as they reap their benefits and get to call the players by their first name. Dave Cormack would do well to get rid of these two. The club should be about striving to be better and there's no reason why the club and the fans shouldn't aim high. All Smashie & Nicey did was trot out the West Coast themes of know your place and accept that The Gruesome Twosome win all the trophies. For me, that's a sackable offence (if indeed they are employed by the club which I don't know if they are?).. The only person to speak with any degree of positivity in this podcast was Lee Mair. I won't even start on Darren Young or my blood pressure will be sky high. Not much I disagree with but probably a bit harsh It annoys me when they have Shinie there as an analyst. Why is he there giving his opinion on football? He's a fan like the rest of us. Probably another example of them keeping themselves in a job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illgresi Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 11 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said: I was fairly critical of Dave Cormack's hiring of Rob McLean last summer when the club were complaining of financial difficulties. However, after listening to this podcast, I now realise that I was wrong. Shine & Macdermid sounded like Smashie & Nicey after their show was cancelled which itself was a send up of the Dave Lee Travis outburst as he resigned from Radio 1 before he was sacked. These two don't rock the boat. As described above, they're cheerleaders, unquestioning and snuggled up nice and tight to the club as they suck the AFC teat for all they're worth. However, in this podcast we hear pangs of bitterness at the way Derek McInnes left the club. Very unusual or is it? These pair of parasites have done very nicely during the Derek McInnes/Stewart Milne era. For example, a regular three jaunts away in Europe at the club's expense each summer, travelling up and down the country at the club's expense, and best seats in the house to watch games at Pittodrie. However, suddenly last summer the club decides that the RedTV should have a more professional sheen to the amateurish musings of these pair of sycophants. Now Smashie & Nicey start to see their cosy little number getting broken up so their noses are already out of joint by the time Cormack puts the heads of Messrs McInnes & Docherty on the chopping block. Consequently, we start to hear a bit of rebellion from Smashie & Nicey, with the now real threat that they will be cut loose from the club completely. So now it's all what do the supporters expect? and we've had it so good that we better be careful for what we wish for...Semi-finals, the odd cup final, a trophy every 10-15 years, European football until mid-August when the competition starts for real, 3rd or 4th place league positions, that's what McInnes delivered and that's Aberdeen at it's absolute peak. Nobody can come in and do any better. Indeed Smashie (Shinie) said that if Celtic hadn't been in the competitions we would have won cups galore and we'd be building a statue to McInnes not sacking him. Perhaps somebody should have told him that it wasn't just Celtic that was turfing as out of the Cups. Nor, do I know of a statue in existence for a man that led us to three league titles, three Scottish Cups on the bounce and another a year after, two European trophies and a League Cup. These two couldn't care a jot about Aberdeen. In my opinion, they're just a pair of self-serving parasites who are perfectly happy at the status quo as long as they reap their benefits and get to call the players by their first name. Dave Cormack would do well to get rid of these two. The club should be about striving to be better and there's no reason why the club and the fans shouldn't aim high. All Smashie & Nicey did was trot out the West Coast themes of know your place and accept that The Gruesome Twosome win all the trophies. For me, that's a sackable offence (if indeed they are employed by the club which I don't know if they are?).. The only person to speak with any degree of positivity in this podcast was Lee Mair. I won't even start on Darren Young or my blood pressure will be sky high. Agreed. Rob MacLean has certainly brought an air of professionalism to the RedTV coverage, and those two drag it back down. I for one cannot stand the cringeworthy bias, and sycophantic nonsense. When on occasion you get the opposition's commentary, they are almost always much more professional. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 11 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said: I was fairly critical of Dave Cormack's hiring of Rob McLean last summer when the club were complaining of financial difficulties. However, after listening to this podcast, I now realise that I was wrong. This is where I find Cormack quite hard to fathom. He seems quite switched on in terms of improving the fan experience & has high expectations for the club. If the rumours are true about bringing in a largely untested Glass, then it seems strange that he would bypass a rigorous application process for the managers post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, Golden Gordon said: This is where I find Cormack quite hard to fathom. He seems quite switched on in terms of improving the fan experience & has high expectations for the club. If the rumours are true about bringing in a largely untested Glass, then it seems strange that he would bypass a rigorous application process for the managers post. I’m maybe clutching but the fact it’s gone really quiet the last few days perhaps suggests we are going through a more rigorous recruitment process than initially first thought Or we’ll just announce Glass on Friday, f**k knows 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d31 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) I think we we will take our time. Paul Sheerin has the Dundee United game. It's 2.5 weeks to our next game (Dumbarton or Huntly) and 3.5 weeks to our next league game. I'd imagine Cormack is targeting the post split game to have a new team in place but used the language that Sheerin is in charge until the end of the season in case the best candidate is not available until the summer. 3.5 weeks should be enough time to go through a proper process. 1. Manager sacked. 8 March. 2. 1-2 weeks for Applications. 19 March. 3. 1 weeks for Board review all Applications and make a short list of 5-6 candidates to invite for interview. 26 March. 4. 1 day for Board review Shortlist and decide if any further managers should be approached. 29 March. 5. 1 week for Interviews to begin from the candidates who applied. 29 March - 2 April 6. 1 week to approach any Managers(Clubs) who have not applied. 29 March - 2 April. 7. Select final 2 candidates to propose to Board along with details of any Managers approached in the interim (eg estimated compensation). 5 April. 8. Board decision to make offer to manager (or pursue manager under contract). 5 April. That would for example be a very realistic and thorough process. It allows applications, shortlisting and interview and then consider approaching managers not on the list. If the manager is immediately available you'd have him in place before the post split fixtures commence. If Sheerin can come out of the Dundee Utd and Dumbarton/Huntly games undefeated then it's all good in the hood. Edited March 16, 2021 by d31 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Forgetting any bias, Shinie and McDermid are just shite commentators. I've lost count of the number of times this season they've just completely misreported incidents in the game. "And the referee has given a throw to the Dons..." Nope, that's a free kick the other way actually. Forgiven in isolation but it's multiple times a game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d31 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Dons_1988 said: Forgetting any bias, Shinie and McDermid are just shite commentators. I've lost count of the number of times this season they've just completely misreported incidents in the game. "And the referee has given a throw to the Dons..." Nope, that's a free kick the other way actually. Forgiven in isolation but it's multiple times a game. McDiarmid missed the Lewis throwing the ball in the net v Livvie for a good 3-5 seconds. Cringeworthy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Decent update that More hopeful of a decent Managerial appointment now 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Aye, the update was decent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyQuinn Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 The silence from the club has been deafening however I'm much more upbeat after hearing Cormack speak. His comments regarding the media and the football pundits in this country were brilliant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: Aye, the update was decent. A wee bit of cynicism there Merkland? Must admit, my heart lept when Cormack said he had taken advice from Alex Ferguson, then I remembered David Moyes. Says all the right things, so hopefully he can back this up with action. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogbrush1903 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) Oh I loved that interview, especially Dave biting his tongue but obviously annoyed about the pundits nonsense about fans expectations. And as for Fergie... That was so refreshing to listen to someone associated with AFC displaying that ambition and fighting talk especially after listening to that horrendous Northsound podcast yesterday. And throw into the mix, some squaring up and posturing to the Gruesome Twosome. I haven't heard that officially from AFC in a long time. Great stuff That'll do for starters Dave... Edited March 16, 2021 by Bogbrush1903 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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