Which P & B yes voter is the most seething?

[SodjesSixteenIncher]

I've been really surprised at how irascible some of the No voters have been tbh. Think some thought all the Yes voters would sit doon and eat their cereal after a No. Bit annoying realisation that things won't be the same as before.

Not saying they're SEETHING though. I'm sure I'm more seething about this than even the grumpiest of nawbags.

[Confidemus]

I think, by and large, No voters have understimated how this has affected Yes voters.

I'm sure this will attract more than a few scoffs, but many Yes voters are going through a grieving process of sorts. I certainly underestimated how deeply a No vote would hurt. That's clearly my own fault for allowing my expectations to sky rocket.

It's going to take a long time for me to fully come to terms that Yes didn't win, and I know that's true for a lot of other Yes voters. My wife is still upset over it, friends who have voted Yes have text to say they are still distraught and we actually, laugh if you will, need time to grieve.

So perhaps some of us, including me, have lashed out for good or for worse. Now there's probably things we could do to expedite the process, such as probably steer clear of places like this, but I've found discussing it to be cathartic.

In short, I'll get over it eventually.

[H_B]

I think, by and large, No voters have understimated how this has affected Yes voters.

Can't speak for everyone, but I certainly thought after being proven so disasterously wrong with pre-referendum claims, there would be a bit of taking stock, embarrassment at being so horribly wrong and a return to a more reasonable attitude.

That may come in time, but it hasn't yet.

I think in a month's time say, things will be a lot better.

[Confidemus]

Can't speak for everyone, but I certainly thought after being proven so disasterously wrong with pre-referendum claims, there would be a bit of taking stock, embarrassment at being so horribly wrong and a return to a more reasonable attitude.

That may come in time, but it hasn't yet.

I think in a month's time say, things will be a lot better.

So you think embarrassment and taking stock should be the Yes voter's current emotional stance?

[H_B]

So you think embarrassment and taking stock should be the Yes voter's current emotional stance?

Not yes voters in general, no. They didn't embarrass themselves on here.

But taking stock should certainly be the order of the day, along with some level of pleasure in the high turnout and expression of the democratic will of the Scottish people being so clearly displayed for all to see.

The referendum has been terrific from that point of view. So many people voting on an issue and so decisive a result allowing us to move forward.

[Confidemus]

Not yes voters in general, no. They didn't embarrass themselves on here.

But taking stock should certainly be the order of the day, along with some level of pleasure in the high turnout and expression of the democratic will of the Scottish people being so clearly displayed for all to see.

The referendum has been terrific from that point of view. So many people voting on an issue and so decisive a result allowing us to move forward.

I would say that most Yes voters are taking stock, in their own time, in their own way. I don't think the emotional investment should be downplayed in this though.

[H_B]

I would say that most Yes voters are taking stock, in their own time, in their own way. I don't think the emotional investment should be downplayed in this though.

Yeah, that's fair comment. I have friends at work who invested a lot too and are very disappointed. I can understand that.

I think the reactions towards those who voted No have been pretty shameful though. Divisive and pathetic. I certainly wouldn't have felt that way had it gone the other way. What people vote and for what reason is up to them. That's democracy.

[Hammer Jag]

I'm stil absolutely boiling. Also, the fact I haven't been mentioned in this thread has only served in making me even more seething. I'm so full of anger and hatred, I think I might burst into flames. Raging.

[Granny Danger]

I'm amazed that H_B, the home economics student, is still getting so many bites in so many threads.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

If it had just said P & B voter I would have nominated the pea-brain that is Magee.

[pandarilla]

Yes.

Lets immitate the OP and be a pathetic erse.

Which no poster is most seething that they have "won" the referendum but the independence debate is not going away?

That's absolutely Wallace Mercer.

[Monkey Tennis]

I think, by and large, No voters have understimated how this has affected Yes voters.

I'm sure this will attract more than a few scoffs, but many Yes voters are going through a grieving process of sorts. I certainly underestimated how deeply a No vote would hurt. That's clearly my own fault for allowing my expectations to sky rocket.

It's going to take a long time for me to fully come to terms that Yes didn't win, and I know that's true for a lot of other Yes voters. My wife is still upset over it, friends who have voted Yes have text to say they are still distraught and we actually, laugh if you will, need time to grieve.

So perhaps some of us, including me, have lashed out for good or for worse. Now there's probably things we could do to expedite the process, such as probably steer clear of places like this, but I've found discussing it to be cathartic.

In short, I'll get over it eventually.

Good post.

I didn't particularly frequent this part of the forum prior to Thursday and going on what I've seen since, I'd have had you down as a clear winner.

You're right though in highlighting the genuine hurt people are feeling over this.

I'm a Yes voter, but I've emerged from this fairly unscathed as I honestly never believed it was on. I do get how damaging such things can be though. I felt similarly after the 1992 General Election and it really felt Hellish, as I swirled around in impotent fury.

You will get over it, probably sooner than you currently think. A seemingly wasted, or even betrayed, investment is painful though.

[pandarilla]

Good post.

I didn't particularly frequent this part of the forum prior to Thursday and going on what I've seen since, I'd have had you down as a clear winner.

You're right though in highlighting the genuine hurt people are feeling over this.

I'm a Yes voter, but I've emerged from this fairly unscathed as I honestly never believed it was on. I do get how damaging such things can be though. I felt similarly after the 1992 General Election and it really felt Hellish, as I swirled around in impotent fury.

You will get over it, probably sooner than you currently think. A seemingly wasted, or even betrayed, investment is painful though.

I remember seeing my dad struggle for a while after this election.

This is even worse though - it won't come again in 5 years time.

One of the saddest aspects for me has been that both my dad and my father-in-law (one a socialist, one a nationalist) will probably not get to see an independent Scotland (75 and 70 respectively).

[Jamaldo]

I think, by and large, No voters have understimated how this has affected Yes voters.

I'm sure this will attract more than a few scoffs, but many Yes voters are going through a grieving process of sorts. I certainly underestimated how deeply a No vote would hurt. That's clearly my own fault for allowing my expectations to sky rocket.

It's going to take a long time for me to fully come to terms that Yes didn't win, and I know that's true for a lot of other Yes voters. My wife is still upset over it, friends who have voted Yes have text to say they are still distraught and we actually, laugh if you will, need time to grieve.

So perhaps some of us, including me, have lashed out for good or for worse. Now there's probably things we could do to expedite the process, such as probably steer clear of places like this, but I've found discussing it to be cathartic.

In short, I'll get over it eventually.

It's tough isn't it?

I think the thing that makes it a wee bit worse is that, in my opinion, a lot of No voters wouldn't actually have been that bothered if it was a Yes vote. Whereas I think pretty much every Yes voter will have been gutted on Friday.

[tamthebam]

there seemed to be a lot of SEETHE from some lovely NO voters in George Square on Friday- just imagine if Yes had won....

[pandarilla]

It's tough isn't it?

I think the thing that makes it a wee bit worse is that, in my opinion, a lot of No voters wouldn't actually have been that bothered if it was a Yes vote. Whereas I think pretty much every Yes voter will have been gutted on Friday.

That's not true. Many people would've been devastated - just like many of us are.

[BigMartyn86]

[MariusZaliukas]

That's absolutely Wallace Mercer.

Not that you're in any way bothered by him.

[Monkey Tennis]

I remember seeing my dad struggle for a while after this election.

This is even worse though - it won't come again in 5 years time.

One of the saddest aspects for me has been that both my dad and my father-in-law (one a socialist, one a nationalist) will probably not get to see an independent Scotland (75 and 70 respectively).

Yes, I understand that the finality of this makes it hard.

1992 felt a bit like that too though. Obviously, we knew another similar vote would come around in 4 or 5 years in a way it won't this time. However, the circumstances then were such that it seemed the Tories could never be removed. They were unpopular, amidst a recession and Labour had become electable.

Most polls had an overall Labour majority, with some, even the exit one, indicating a hung Parliament. For the Tories to then romp home, with an increased share and an improved Scottish showing was bloody hard to take.

And there had been no vow.

Painful, it was.

I could say of course that it all had a happy ending in 1997, but that wouldn't really be true either.

[git-intae-thum]

Yes, I understand that the finality of this makes it hard.

1992 felt a bit like that too though. Obviously, we knew another similar vote would come around in 4 or 5 years in a way it won't this time. However, the circumstances then were such that it seemed the Tories could never be removed. They were unpopular, amidst a recession and Labour had become electable.

Most polls had an overall Labour majority, with some, even the exit one, indicating a hung Parliament. For the Tories to then romp home, with an increased share and an improved Scottish showing was bloody hard to take.

And there had been no vow.

Painful, it was.

I could say of course that it all had a happy ending in 1997, but that wouldn't really be true either.

You think the current situation is a finality?

That is surely just Gordon Broons wet dream. Unfortunately it has no basis in reality.