williemillersmoustache Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Gaz said: Yup. This isn't, for once, a Republican v Democrat thing. This is an American thing. This sort of thing is acceptable to them. It's just a cost of business of living in the US. https://qz.com/1095899/gun-ownership-in-america-in-three-charts/ It's not really though. 3% of Americans own half the guns. And only 25% own any. It's entirely a lobbying issue. "Do you want gun control or $3million for your campaign Mr. Senator?" c***s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said: https://qz.com/1095899/gun-ownership-in-america-in-three-charts/ It's not really though. 3% of Americans own half the guns. And only 25% own any. It's entirely a lobbying issue. "Do you want gun control or $3million for your campaign Mr. Senator?" c***s. The NRA don't actually spend that much in lobbying and campaign contributions compared to Pharma, health insurance, energy sectors etc. It's the kiss of death for some candidates if they say you're a gun hating pussy though. Edited February 15, 2018 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, RiG said: As has been mentioned before, Obama set up rules and regulations making it harder for people with mental illnesses to buy guns. Trump revoked it for, erm, reasons.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221 And people on the no fly list because of suspected terrorist links. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The NRA don't actually spend that much in lobbying and campaign contributions compared to Pharma, health insurance, energy sectors etc. It's the kiss of death for some candidates if they say you're a gun hating pussy though. Aye, compared to 3 of the biggest sectors, what should be a hobbyists part of the economy I imagine it is relatively small. But clearly the choice isn't take the money or not, it's take the money or we tell everyone you're a "gun hating pussy." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Looks like the cops were none too gentle when they arrested the shooter. Quote From about 150 feet away, Nembhard watched as authorities handcuffed Cruz and put him into a police cruiser. A few minutes later, authorities took him out and put him into an ambulance. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/02/15/florida-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-guns-depression-and-a-life-in-free-fall/?utm_term=.a5fc23aa8768 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Looks like the cops were none too gentle when they arrested the shooter. From about 150 feet away, Nembhard watched as authorities handcuffed Cruz and put him into a police cruiser. A few minutes later, authorities took him out and put him into an ambulance. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/02/15/florida-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-guns-depression-and-a-life-in-free-fall/?utm_term=.a5fc23aa8768That’s enough time to get his name and ascertain that he isn’t anglo-white. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Watching Fox News on and off during the day. Expecting someone to say "ban schools". What they are going on about is arming ex-cops & retired servicemen and getting them to secure schools all over the country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Watching Fox News on and off during the day. Expecting someone to say "ban schools". What they are going on about is arming ex-cops & retired servicemen and getting them to secure schools all over the country. Harness the militiamen and bikers that are pledged to defend Baron Trump and extend that to all children. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMc99 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 such a fucked up, deluded , freakshow of a nation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 "Our larger population means our problems are different. You can't compare anything. Sorry"Hell mend the c***s 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Trump: "So clear that the shooter had mental health problems." Also Trump: "Obama made it more difficult for people with mental health problems to buy guns? Let's just see about that!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Trump will sign any old shit that’s put in front of him. Outrageous that people would hold him to account. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Jambomo said: For once the problem isn't Trump, its the American people themselves. Many of them enjoy their gun culture and have no desire to see it changed. They'll be shocked when people die in events like this, but they don't care, not enough to think they should ruin their enjoyment. If Trump thought it would keep him in the limelight and keep his popularity high, he'd change the laws tomorrow. Like our own politicians, I don't think he really believes in anything enough not to jettison it when he can do something to keep himself rich and powerful. I was thinking this since I heard the breaking news last night and was going to come here and post something similar. If the dumbass yanks don't give a damn about their children then why should we? Watched first two episodes of Dope on Netflix recently and it just brings home how the US is beyond hope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 As much as I despise Trump it's ridiculous trying to lay any of the blame for this on him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Florida Governor, Rick Scott, and Florida Senator, Marco Rubio, decline to be interviewed by CNN but appear on Fox News. Not even willing to defend their positions. Also it’s looking like the shooter may have had links with right wing groups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 3 hours ago, RiG said: Trump: "So clear that the shooter had mental health problems." Also Trump: "Obama made it more difficult for people with mental health problems to buy guns? Let's just see about that!" Wouldn't have stopped this shooter from buying his assault rifle, only applied to people who needed help to fill in benefit claims forms because of mental problems. 51 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: As much as I despise Trump it's ridiculous trying to lay any of the blame for this on him. Well he's done f**k all to reduce the risks of it happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 7 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said: https://qz.com/1095899/gun-ownership-in-america-in-three-charts/ It's not really though. 3% of Americans own half the guns. And only 25% own any. It's entirely a lobbying issue. "Do you want gun control or $3million for your campaign Mr. Senator?" c***s. That's a similar statistic to 4% of Britons drink 33% of the alcohol consumed in the UK. (I can't remember the exact %, but it's along those lines.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: . (I can't remember the exact %, but it's along those lines.) ^^^^^ hammered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 24 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: ^^^^^ hammered. ^^^^four percenter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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