SandyCromarty Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Detournement said: Thousands of Scots mercanaries went to fight for Sweden and the Protestant factions of the Thirty Years War. Large scale emigration to Poland is a myth of Sandy's imagination. Not at all, it's well documented if you care to research, the problem was that many Scots ended up as peddlars. And thirty thousand is hardly large scale. Edited March 17, 2021 by SandyCromarty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Not at all, it's well documented if you care to research, the problem was that many Scots ended up as peddlars. And thirty thousand is hardly large scale.Kind of is large scale considering population sizes at the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said: Not at all, it's well documented if you care to research, the problem was that many Scots ended up as peddlars. And thirty thousand is hardly large scale. It would amount to roughly 5% of the population of Scotland at the time. If it's well documented you won't have any problem pointing me in the direction of sources. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, Detournement said: It would amount to roughly 5% of the population of Scotland at the time. If it's well documented you won't have any problem pointing me in the direction of sources. Considering there was no mention about the source for horses charging at tanks just a barrage of red dots I wouldn't hold your breath. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairn Terrier Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 It would amount to roughly 5% of the population of Scotland at the time. If it's well documented you won't have any problem pointing me in the direction of sources. https://openjournals.library.sydney.edu.au/index.php/JSSSH/article/download/7158/7622 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Out of interest there seemed to be a fairly substantial scots diaspora to do with the church in Hungary which I wasnt aware of until recently. According to some plaque in budapest...could be pish. I'd heard about the Krakow scots before though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, Cairn Terrier said: https://openjournals.library.sydney.edu.au/index.php/JSSSH/article/download/7158/7622 Interesting stuff but the text itself seems sceptical of the 30 thousand figure given the community leaves no trace. What is the publication? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, tirso said: Out of interest there seemed to be a fairly substantial scots diaspora to do with the church in Hungary which I wasnt aware of until recently. According to some plaque in budapest...could be pish. I'd heard about the Krakow scots before though. Related possibly to Queen Margaret of Scotland, born to the King of Hungary? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Detournement said: It would amount to roughly 5% of the population of Scotland at the time. If it's well documented you won't have any problem pointing me in the direction of sources. Type - King Stephen Poland and Scots Immigration, or you can take my word for it, which you won't do, but you will type in to have a look and then come back and say you couldn't be bothered, n'est pas? Edited March 17, 2021 by SandyCromarty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Better together alliance giving it big licks in the "Scotland's Constitutional Future" debate in Westminster just now.Even a Labour MP asking Scots to give them "a 2nd chance". 2nd? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 7 hours ago, paolo2143 said: Make no mistake if Douglas Ross was to become FM of a Pro Union majority on 7 May then Indy will be scuppered and not just for few years. One of the first things he will do, lauded on by Westminster, is to change the electoral boundaries in Scotland to reduce any future chances of Pro Indy majority happening. David Davis and Westminster are not just gunning for FM or to bring down SNP, they are constructing a systematic attack to destabilize the Scottish Parliament and Democracy in order to weaken Devolution. This is all part of their power grab. Yesterday the UK Govt passed a Policing Bill that would have made Communist China applaud, we should al be worried. It just shows that you can close the pubs for three months but you cannot banish the sort of philosophical conjecture that is usually preceded by three straight days on the batter. There’s more chance of me being FM. I’d also be a better linesman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo2143 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: It just shows that you can close the pubs for three months but you cannot banish the sort of philosophical conjecture that is usually preceded by three straight days on the batter. There’s more chance of me being FM. I’d also be a better linesman. I hope you are right but the desperation of Pro Union parties is there for all to see. If we had Parliament that say had 59 SNP MSPS and 4 Greens (63 in total) and the Tories/Labour/Lib Dems came to the same amount, which is certainly not impossible as at moment they have 60 between them, it could happen. I wouldn't put it past them to work together to stop Indy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 As someone who enjoys watching the unionist parties increase support for independence without the SNP having to lift a finger, Labour putting DRoss into Bute House sounds fucking magic. They're so utterly cack-handed that I could actually see Labour doing it too, if they could. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/nationalists-who-ditch-the-snp-are-basically-giving-up-on-scottish-independence-helen-martin-3163146%3famp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 We're fucking trying, Lia, but youse c***s won't let us go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Granny Danger Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Headline from the Scotsman: Support for independence has fallen 12 points since Nicola Sturgeon appeared before Alex Salmond inquiry The article then goes on to explain it’s dropped six points so it’s a ‘12 point swing’ not a twelve point drop. Duplicitous bástards are running scared. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Sounds like utter shit. Why would anyone be swayed from Indy because of this? They wouldn't unless they've already decided their a no voting gammon f**k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: Sounds like utter shit. Why would anyone be swayed from Indy because of this? They wouldn't unless they've already decided their a no voting gammon f**k. Clearly been swayed by arr armed forces upping the nuke capacity. Rule Britannia. Edited March 21, 2021 by GNU_Linux 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Boring competency and stability is a big deal to a lot of people hence why the SNP cosied up to the People's Vote lot and that vote will evaporate if the SNP get mired in a scandal like this and Sturgeon looks like she's corrupt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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