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13 hours ago, welshbairn said:

Great, throw in a bit of quantitative easing and we kick off a new regime on Monday! Except a maximum of £450 million wouldn't take us very far in rejigging the economy.

How can we borrow £450m without borrowing powers?

We don't have the power to borrow just £450m though.  I am sure after your initial uniformed post and subsequent Google search you will see that we can borrow significantly more than that.

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27 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said:

How fucking tedious. The never ending slavers about the ability to borrow for specific capital expenditures but not day to day spend.

There’s an underlying point.  A country that does not have full financial autonomy will never be able to determine its own future.

Certain craven creatures are quite happy with this state of affairs.

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1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Just watched the interviews with Ian Duncan and Alex Salmond on the BBC and how interesting and articulate these two were. What a difference from the usual dullards of Scottish politics who are usually wheeled on.

 

You mean like D.Ross?

Salmond was very good, and made several excellent points as to how we should proceed towards Indyref2.

Surprised to find we are in agreement on this. 

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46 minutes ago, ICTJohnboy said:

You mean like D.Ross?

Salmond was very good, and made several excellent points as to how we should proceed towards Indyref2.

Surprised to find we are in agreement on this. 

Yes- D Ross and most of the SNP ministers are hopeless.

Politically, I am totally opposed to Salmond but, as a political communicator he is streets ahead of Nicola and the rest.

Duncan, who I don’t know much about, was articulate and honest in his views.

Made a welcome change.

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38 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Perhaps being in no way accountable to or dependent upon the views of thew electorate makes it easier to speak your mind. Like the guy who lost to Pete Wishart and still became a government minister the next day.

I listened to Salmond too and he spoke very well on the subject of Indyref in 2023. Accountable or not, he was bang on with pretty much every point he made. 

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18 minutes ago, HTG said:

I listened to Salmond too and he spoke very well on the subject of Indyref in 2023. Accountable or not, he was bang on with pretty much every point he made. 

I've certainly got much more time for "let's all work together" Unity Salmond than I have for "still seething and lashing out at being correctly ostracised for being a toucher" Salmond.

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6 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:

I've certainly got much more time for "let's all work together" Unity Salmond than I have for "still seething and lashing out at being correctly ostracised for being a toucher" Salmond.

I wouldn’t touch Salmond with a ten foot pole.  Anyway he’s totally irrelevant.

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11 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:

How fucking tedious. The never ending slavers about the ability to borrow for specific capital expenditures but not day to day spend.

Obviously not tedious as you are showing how ignorant you are.  The Scottish government can borrow for revenue and capital expenditure.

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10 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Yes- D Ross and most of the SNP ministers are hopeless.

Politically, I am totally opposed to Salmond but, as a political communicator he is streets ahead of Nicola and the rest.

Duncan, who I don’t know much about, was articulate and honest in his views.

Made a welcome change.

 

Agree with this, DPB.

Salmond has character flaws (don't we all?) but is a superb debater and communicator.

Sturgeon isn't as competent, but has an incredibly broad appeal.  She lives a lie and has cultivated an image/persona that appeals to all the 'right on' groups.

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