sergie's no1 fan Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Between EU immigrants and the new batch of eligible young voters, it has tipped the scales to the Indy side anyway.See a lot of Yoons saying 2 wrongs don't make a right. Guaranteed that is their new slogan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 46 minutes ago, sergie's no1 fan said: Between EU immigrants and the new batch of eligible young voters, it has tipped the scales to the Indy side anyway. See a lot of Yoons saying 2 wrongs don't make a right. Guaranteed that is their new slogan. I would not put it past London to insist on EU nationals not having the vote, when the inevitable referendum comes around. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I would not put it past London to insist on EU nationals not having the vote, when the inevitable referendum comes around. We could do the same with the English, Welsh and Irish who live here and make it a Scots only vote, which would also sway it in our favour. There will be even dirtier tactics no doubt. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, sergie's no1 fan said: 20 minutes ago, I said: I would not put it past London to insist on EU nationals not having the vote, when the inevitable referendum comes around. We could do the same with the English, Welsh and Irish who live here and make it a Scots only vote, which would also sway it in our favour. There will be even dirtier tactics no doubt. Imagine the seethe if that were proposed. That's my happy thought for the day 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, sergie's no1 fan said: 1 hour ago, I said: I would not put it past London to insist on EU nationals not having the vote, when the inevitable referendum comes around. We could do the same with the English, Welsh and Irish who live here and make it a Scots only vote, which would also sway it in our favour. There will be even dirtier tactics no doubt. EU nationals quite rightly won't have a vote if we've left the EU. The invisible migration of English people is just something the Indy movement will have to overcome. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Detournement said: EU nationals quite rightly won't have a vote if we've left the EU. Agree to a point. It should go beyond EU Nationals and anyone living and working in Scotland should have a vote 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 3 hours ago, MixuFixit said: Something taxation something representation EU people other than ROI, Malta and Cyprus already can't vote in general elections. As i've said before immigrants are more likely to vote for the status quo anyway as it means they can move to England if they choose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Won't need yer passport for re-entry....yet.Is it blue? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 4 hours ago, MixuFixit said: A disservice that WM should look to Holyrood's example to rectify. No they willnae. Last time sure, this time no chance. No EU countries allow other EU citizens to vote in national elections. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: I'm struggling to get to the bit where I decide that's a good thing If i was you I would ask myself if there was possibly a reason why every democracy in the world restricts voting at the national level to citizens only? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Any permanent resident should get a vote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 If i was you I would ask myself if there was possibly a reason why every democracy in the world restricts voting at the national level to citizens only?I vote in Irish general elections Not an Irish citizen (yet) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Don't remember too many complaints about EU nationals being allowed the vote in 2014. I wonder why it is now an issue? As far as I am concerned if you live here, you should get the vote 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I vote in Irish general elections Not an Irish citizen (yet)Are you progressing with the application? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Are you progressing with the application? Not yet, waiting for Indyref2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Not yet, waiting for Indyref2You will be eligible for an OAP discount by then I would imagine. Wise choice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 You will be eligible for an OAP discount by then I would imagine. Wise choice.Not bad Loon, not bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Just came across this piece with regards to Scotlands public finances: http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2017/08/25/gers-is-this-why-it-always-says-the-scottish-deficit-is-so-large/ A very interesting deconstruction of the GERS fudge by an accountant. As most will know GERS cannot provide an exact reflection of Scotlands public finance......but surely we should have a system that provides a reasonable reflection. The conclusion is that Scotlands tax take is grossly undervalued. Our allocated share of total expenditure is grossly inflated. No shit.....another Westminster lie crumbling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 You will be eligible for an OAP discount by then I would imagine. Wise choice.I love the smell of fear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 I love the smell of fearUnless I'm shitting myself and it's not the smell of fear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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