DAFC. Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Ian Blackford told to "f**k off" and "Go to the chippy" by opposition members. More fuel to the fire. Jockoland bad crew still defending the Union though. Incredible stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonwell Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, DAFC. said: Ian Blackford told to "f**k off" and "Go to the chippy" by opposition members. More fuel to the fire. Jockoland bad crew still defending the Union though. Incredible stuff. He does love a chippy to be fair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Ian Blackford told to "f**k off" and "Go to the chippy" by opposition members. More fuel to the fire. Jockoland bad crew still defending the Union though. Incredible stuff. That's uncalled for. Wee Blackford obviously needs no encouragement to "go to the chippy". Seems to have that down to a fine art on his own. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Could the Yes vote be benefitted by the promise of a Scottish GE immediately after Independence?It may help dispel the notion that voting indy is voting for the SNP? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Could the Yes vote be benefitted by the promise of a Scottish GE immediately after Independence? It may help dispel the notion that voting indy is voting for the SNP? I think it would take a few months at the barest minimum to see new parties form in the aftermath of an independence vote. They'll be significant support, imo, for whichever party is seen as a successor party to the SNP as well. There probably needs to be a greater articulation of alternative independence visions to the SNP's before the campaign really gets going again but the SNP are unlikely to want that either and they're the hegemonic force for indy like it or lump it. The alternatives are fairly marginalised at this point. ETA: I honestly think anyone who says the SNP are the reason they're not voting for independence is not going to change their mind in the near future anyway. The SNP don't really offend anyone beyond their desire for breaking away from the UK, they're pretty timid in most other respects. Edited January 30, 2019 by NotThePars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Could the Yes vote be benefitted by the promise of a Scottish GE immediately after Independence?It may help dispel the notion that voting indy is voting for the SNP? Always thought this. Also think SNP should offer the major parties cabinet seats in the event of a yes vote and GE win (for the transition only) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Bairnardo said: Could the Yes vote be benefitted by the promise of a Scottish GE immediately after Independence? It may help dispel the notion that voting indy is voting for the SNP? The danger could be that you'd get a huge turnout of angry unionists electing people determined to sabotage independence. It will require a committed Government determined to make it progress by making the work happen quickly and able to quickly make decisions. Inviting willing partners from other parties on to the Cabinet might work, but I think it would have to be initially SNP led. There will be a huge amount to do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 There would obviously have to be an election as soon as Scotland became independent. How could the SNP claim to govern a new nation without a mandate. That's blood on the streets stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, DublinMagyar said: 5 hours ago, Bairnardo said: Could the Yes vote be benefitted by the promise of a Scottish GE immediately after Independence? It may help dispel the notion that voting indy is voting for the SNP? Always thought this. Also think SNP should offer the major parties cabinet seats in the event of a yes vote and GE win (for the transition only) Jesus, who do you think the stellar candidates the major parties would nominate are? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 40 minutes ago, Detournement said: There would obviously have to be an election as soon as Scotland became independent. How could the SNP claim to govern a new nation without a mandate. That's blood on the streets stuff. Hysterical nonsense. Holding the vast majority of seats at Westminster and being Scotlands continuing party of govt at Holyrood is more than enough of a mandate to form a transitional government. The only argument would be if any of the current unionist politicians are talented enough or indeed trustworthy enough to be handed a role in the transition.....and the length of transition period 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said: Hysterical nonsense. Holding the vast majority of seats at Westminster and being Scotlands continuing party of govt at Holyrood is more than enough of a mandate to form a transitional government. The only argument would be if any of the current unionist politicians are talented enough or indeed trustworthy enough to be handed a role in the transition.....and the length of transition period Day one of independence. No Government. That would work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Day one of independence. No Government. That would work. Scotland has a government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, git-intae-thum said: Scotland has a government. I was agreeing with you, it was the idea of closing it down for an election campaign on day one of independence that was daft. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I was agreeing with you, it was the idea of closing it down for an election campaign on day one of independence that was daft. Doh me...lol. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Jesus, who do you think the stellar candidates the major parties would nominate are? Ross Thomson mainly. He's great he is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 How soon after independence do you expect to see a party founded who try and force the reunification of Scotland and the UK? I’m gonna go for it to happen within a day backed by dodgy money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: I was agreeing with you, it was the idea of closing it down for an election campaign on day one of independence that was daft. Have the election near the end of the transistion then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Or have it written into the constitution of the newly independent Scotland that independence will never be rescinded. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, Detournement said: Have the election near the end of the transistion then. Quite....there will obviously be two notable periods of transition. Transition pre independence and transition post independence. I would imagine a sensible period for elections would be somewhere between 6 months to 2 years post independence. Just enough time for all the roasters who say they will leave to leave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, mizfit said: How soon after independence do you expect to see a party founded who try and force the reunification of Scotland and the UK? I’m gonna go for it to happen within a day backed by dodgy money. "Independence means there will be no going back" - Gordon Brown, Alistair Darling and every other unionist circa 2014 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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