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21 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

Our problem is that if the troll actually accepts a reasoned answer to his ridiculous questions, he cannot repeat the question again, and again, and again etc.

It's in his interests to pretend that his nonsense has not been answered. As long as we respond, he can continue to troll.

Oh did I miss an answer? 

Perhaps you can help. What would you cut to save £13Bn per annum? 

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31 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

If you are sick of using Malky as a football here, check out his other work on the forum. at about 03:00 this morning he posted a tale of utter fantasy int he Snip thread which has been suitably ridiculed. An absolute fucking rocket. 

I noticed you posted that I was lying last night and I thought it was a very bizarre response so I just ignored you. 

Seriously on what basis do you think I would lie about my personal experience of the snip? What a weirdo you are. 

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1 minute ago, Malky3 said:

I noticed you posted that I was lying last night and I thought it was a very bizarre response so I just ignored you. 

Seriously on what basis do you think I would lie about my personal experience of the snip? What a weirdo you are. 

Why dont you go back to that thread where Tynierose has absolutely rubbished your clear lies you fucking oddball. 

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4 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Why dont you go back to that thread where Tynierose has absolutely rubbished your clear lies you fucking oddball. 

Been already. He's not got a clue. Neither have you. Weirdo

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4 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

I'm not the one making up bizarre lies on a football forum m9. 

Aside from that, you have a solid case for me being the weirdo here and not you. 

You're the one trolling someone who is earnestly sharing his experience of a vasectomy and you're getting a hard on from it. is the kid on doctor one of your aliases? It's certainly looks like your MO after you kidded on you were an oil expert.  

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2 hours ago, Malky3 said:

So capital spends like HS2, Crossrail, and Wembley Stadium have been great for Scotland in that it has meant a larger grant being paid for the Scottish Government to use on projects North of the Border. 

So we should thank London for spending hundreds of billions on these projects, never mind the aircraft carriers with no escorts or planes and Trident 2.0, because eventually we might get the A9 dualled? Personally I'd rather just keep our 10%.

 

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1 hour ago, git-intae-thum said:

Bless.......Malky is no quite getting the difference between deficit as in what independent countries with full fiscal control get to run......and notional deficit.....as in the kind that UK statisticians make up for Scotland whilst it is in union. 

I have already posted at least 3 times, explaining how this notional deficit is created......but it's like explaining something to a plank of wid.

In fairness it is a common error among the yoonball element in our society

Back on topic and away from the Falkirk bawsack talking about my vasectomy.....

I've got to be honest here git-intae-thum but I think it's you who is struggling badly. 

I was going to say I've no idea why you'd want to talk about a "notional deficit" when no deficit exists, but actually I do know why you would. It would be to attempt to muddy the waters as nationalists always do.  It fools no-one though. The fact is that whatever you want to call it Scotland spends £13Bn more than it earns. Not a problem when you've got rich partners willing to share their wealth, but it's going to be a bit of an issue when you've told them to go f**k themselves and you're left trying to manage your money on your own. 

 

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2 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

So we should thank London for spending hundreds of billions on these projects, never mind the aircraft carriers with no escorts or planes and Trident 2.0, because eventually we might get the A9 dualled? Personally I'd rather just keep our 10%.

Of course you would - but without those projects you wouldn't have got the 10% in the first place. 

It's interesting that you would have scrapped the aircraft carriers. That's debunked another myth that Nationalists actually give a f**k about Scottish shipbuilding. 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

This utter fantasist still peddling lies and half truths and refusing to answer questions then ?

 

15 minutes ago, Malky3 said:

Yes you are.....😪

 

14 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

Want to clear up that OBFA thing pal ?

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On 09/08/2019 at 16:51, Malky3 said:

I've said before that I am quite long in the tooth, and sadly I've seen all this nonsense before. Back in the 60's and 70's when I was growing up the SNP were seen by many in the West Of Scotland as being a party for Catholics. It's kind of sad to see that after nearly 60 years Scottish politics hasn't really changed. In the last few posts some Nationalist dinosaurs have decided to lump all who fail to follow the Nationalist Cult as Freemasons, Orange Order, protestant, Rangers Supporting Royalists. 

I had hoped that in the modern Scotland we were making some progress towards eradicating sectarianism when in 2012 we saw the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act passed into law unopposed but by 2018 the SNP had repealed the Act, and on these pages we can see why. It's sad really but it seems the Nationalist Cult needs to sow division on any grounds whatsoever to gain traction for their cause. 

I've really tried to get my head around this, but it makes even less sense than your theory that our infrastructure will benefit massively out of HS2, Crossrail and Wembley. Could you explain, especially about how the Act was unopposed and how the SNP repealed it? 

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3 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I've really tried to get my head around this, but it makes even less sense than your theory that our infrastructure will benefit massively out of HS2, Crossrail and Wembley. Could you explain, especially about how the Act was unopposed and how the SNP repealed it? 

I'm not surprised you are struggling. It's already clear you aren't the brightest. If you can't get your head around Barnett consequentials you are even more daft than I thought. 

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25 minutes ago, Malky3 said:

Fair enough, I made it all up about the OBAF Act. I haven't a clue, I don't even live in Scotland. How was I supposed to know the the entire opposition opposed its introduction and the SNP were the only party to fight its repeal? All I can say is I'm sorry, and a little bit ashamed.

That's ok mate, don't worry about it. Now f**k off back to the Snip thread and do the same there. 

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59 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

That's ok mate, don't worry about it. Now f**k off back to the Snip thread and do the same there. 

Oh dear. What a desperate tactic. 

I'd ask you where you would like to see an Independent Scottish Government make £13Bn worth of cuts but I know it's pointless. You aren't very good at reading and having just mentioned vasectomies I'm a bit worried what you might do to yourself. 

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43 minutes ago, Malky3 said:

I'm not surprised you are struggling. It's already clear you aren't the brightest. If you can't get your head around Barnett consequentials you are even more daft than I thought. 

Oh dear....No one is arguing about the Barnett consequentials . 

Obviously GERs allocates an offset amount.

However what GERs and the said consequentials do not adjust for is the multiplying effect of the said spend in the South East and the resulting economic growth......(you do get the basic economic fact that where there is spend it creates economic activity right)..... This is money that good figures and good accounting would subtract from London and the SE and add to the regions as appropriate. However it don't happen.

Basics lesson number 1.

London builds a new bridge. The whole UK pays for it. Barnett consequentials mean Scotland gets its share back.

Fine and dandy.

Eh...NO!

That bridge that Scotland initially part paid for requires planning, requires materials, requires labour, requires legal services...and on and on. In turn these services require supporting economic activity from catering to f@ckin whatever....undertakers or boot menders. All this in effect creates economic growth.

Economic growth creates wealth. Wealth is then tapped for revenue.

This is revenue that Scotland (and other UK regions) paid a share to create. It is revenue that under the current figures is solely apportioned to London and the South East. The regions do not receive their proportion share of the multiplied revenue.

You see then it is really a bit of a racket.

Now imagine this happening every week, every year on all central govt spends or large capital or South of England infrastructure projects. Starting to sink in?

We do not have any figures with regards the multiplier effect......but London certainly has good accountants.🤗

Again...and this is now getting really tiring.....this is the reason that London and the South East show a surplus and other UK regions show notional deficit. 

Scotland in union may very well show a 13bn deficit. But that's because you and my money is being pumped out of our economy and used to create continual growth in another region. That money should be getting used on our infrastructure and to create our own multiplier.

Hey.... the Scottish economy itself may well indeed have a deficit..... But its almost certainly no where nearhalf the UK deficit😂. FFS think about it.

It is a crying shame that so many are duped into thinking this way.

 

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