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St Mirren have confirmed the capture of Dundee striker Rory Loy until the end of the season.

The former Rangers forward found his opportunities limited with Paul Hartley’s side and will be charged with helping the relegation strugglers find a way out of their Championship nightmare.

Loy has made less appearences for Rangers than any club he's ever been at :lol:

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Welcome to the regular Cringe of the Week slot, where the Scottish game is talked down because some people in England don't think it's good. This week's Cringer is MENSA member and respected wordsmith Charlie Nicholas with his pitiful comments in the Herald. Headline:

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Charlie Nicholas: I'm still a massive Celtic fan but Scottish football is a laughing stock without a strong Rangers

my favourite quote is this part where he reveals that he is ribbed by Sky colleagues

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“They laugh at us down there, of course they do. They say “when’s the split coming? When do Celtic get the trophy?” I get all that and I laugh and I make the best of it. However, I’m not enjoying it.

I don't read football coverage from other countries but I'd be amazed if anywhere worked in such an echo chamber where they constantly print articles by ex-pro's basically slagging off the game. This means other ex-pro's can read it, nod along and trot out the same pish when their turn comes to publicise their shitey book or legends kick-about.

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12 minutes ago, Swello said:

Welcome to the regular Cringe of the Week slot, where the Scottish game is talked down because some people in England don't think it's good. This week's Cringer is MENSA member and respected wordsmith Charlie Nicholas with his pitiful comments in the Herald. Headline:

my favourite quote is this part where he reveals that he is ribbed by Sky colleagues

I don't read football coverage from other countries but I'd be amazed if anywhere worked in such an echo chamber where they constantly print articles by ex-pro's basically slagging off the game. This means other ex-pro's can read it, nod along and trot out the same pish when their turn comes to publicise their shitey book or legends kick-about.

I don't know why he doesn't just use his legendary comebacks to get back at them.

 

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CHARLIE NICHOLAS grew up a Celtic fan in Glasgow and ended up playing for his boyhood heroes in two separate spells. At 55 years old he remains a supporter, even if his refusal to “toe the party line” on Celtic matters has not always ingratiated him with certain people, most notably major owner Dermot Desmond who once reportedly took Nicholas to task for something he had said about his stewardship of the club.

“It was about me saying he was treating the football club like a toy - and after that phone call I believed he’d thrown his toys out the pram,” recalled Nicholas. “Some ex-Celtic players toe the party line but I told him I don’t do party lines. That’s not my style.”

The former striker may, therefore, be in a minority of one among Celtic fans when he reveals a wish for Rangers to get back on their feet for the benefit of Scottish football. Nicholas still lives in Glasgow but most of his media work takes place down south, where Sky Sports colleagues like to regularly rib him about the parlous state of the game.

Celtic have been largely untouchable in the four years since Rangers’ financial demise but that gap has grown even greater this season following the appointment of Brendan Rodgers as manager. Given the prospect of regular Champions League money and potential transfer income on a similar scale, there is more chance of Celtic disappearing off into the horizon than there is of Rangers or anyone else getting close to them again. Nicholas, despite his allegiances, doesn’t think that is good for the game as a whole.

“Listen, as a kid coming through the ranks at Celtic, my dream was to score the winner in an Old Firm game and make Rangers suffer every time I played in it,” he said. “That’s my upbringing and nothing’s changed. But I’m also a realist. I work in the media and, although I now work in England and don’t need to sell the Scottish game, I still care passionately about it.

“They laugh at us down there, of course they do. They say “when’s the split coming? When do Celtic get the trophy?” I get all that and I laugh and I make the best of it. However, I’m not enjoying it.

“I just want the edge to come back. In the last two seasons Aberdeen took us to February or March and, although we knew they weren’t going to win it, but it kept it going. The Celtic fans need that. There will be the hard core Celtic supporters who just want to rub Rangers’ noses in it and they’re entitled to that opinion.

“My view, though, for the good of the country, is different because, if this league continues to be totally bossed by Celtic, then there will be no hope for the national team either. Celtic are producing a lot of players for Scotland at the moment but it could soon be that the best players in Brendan’s side aren’t Scottish.”

Only a significant cash investment will make Rangers competitive again and Nicholas doesn’t think that is imminent.

“We’re talking about a big gap [to Celtic],” he added. “You can’t bring in two guys from Accrington Stanley and another two from Wigan – who were on their way down – plus a guy from Preston, who looked as though he’d run out of ideas at the end of his time there. They can’t be brought in and expected to understand the special pressure there is at Ibrox.

“Celtic gambled with Martin O’Neill and it got them to a European final. Tommy Burns didn’t have a budget under Fergus McCann – not one thin dime. Then, eventually, Fergus realised that he needed to spend – and that’s when the likes of Andy Thom, Pierre van Hooijdonk arrived.

“Celtic had to break the mould and that’s what Rangers now need to do. It feels to me as though Rangers still have issues in the background that we know nothing about [which prevents them from spending]. Players are getting loads of stick and the manager is being battered from pillar to post because he’s working with guys from Accrington Stanley and Wigan.”

Celtic remain on course to reach the fabled 10-in-a-row, while Rangers’ world record of 55 top-division titles may also be under threat. But Nicholas doesn’t see either as a big deal in comparison with the club winning the European Cup.

“What does 10 in a row mean to me, as a Celtic fan? Would that be a greater achievement than what Jock Stein did? No, not even close, compared to what the Lisbon Lions produced and the players he brought through.”

 

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On 1/11/2017 at 08:31, The Minertaur said:

In the Daily Record today (obviously not by a journalist) -

George, Meikle, Glasgow, said: “I think Smith is bang on with his comments about Dave King.

“How I envy Celtic enjoying shopping at Fortnum & Mason while Rangers continue to waste their money at Poundstretcher.

“Come on Mr King it is time to open your chequebook and get Rangers back challenging Celtic again sooner rather than later.”

:lol:

That could be from about 97% of all Rangers fans really.  The (fat, obviously) one who sits next to me at work said this almost verbatim to me yesterday when I asked him about Smith's comments.

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On 1/11/2017 at 08:37, TheScarf said:

That could be from about 97% of all Rangers fans really.  The (fat, obviously) one who sits next to me at work said this almost verbatim to me yesterday when I asked him about Smith's comments.

 

27 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

That could be from about 97% of all Rangers fans really.  The (fat, obviously) one who sits next to me at work said this almost verbatim to me yesterday when I asked him about Smith's comments.

Does the guy at your work ever say anything else?

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1 hour ago, The Minertaur said:

"When's the split coming?" has to be one of the worst forms of banter I've ever heard.  That has to be Paul Merson that asks that. Poor guy probably doesn't understand how it works.

"Merse" probably struggles with the instructions on a pencil, to be fair.

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On the whole Charlie Nick thing and his pals on Soccer Saturday laughing at the Scottish game; have the English media ever rated the game up here? Not being overly sensitive about it but my recollections of Saint and Greavsie when I was growing up were habitual references to "Jocko land" and digs about Scottish goalkeepers (fair enough tbh). Not that it bothered me, I rather enjoyed the show but surely the idea that the English media sneering at the Scottish game is anything new seems a bit misguided. The fact that their eyebrows were raised when Souness started signing the likes of Butcher, Woods et al was surely precisely because they didn't rate Scottish football and nothing has particularly changed in that regard.

Of course a one horse race in the league isn't a good look. To argue otherwise is "everything-is-awesome"-type delusion and let's face it a two horse race isn't much better as far as a viable competition goes but the idea of using some sort of approval from the English media to validate the Scottish game is just demented. 

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Who cares about what the English media say about Scottish football?

Do people sit in Portugal worrying about what the SPanish media think of their league?  Or in Austria, fretting about the German papers and TV?

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Just now, ICTChris said:

Who cares about what the English media say about Scottish football?

Do people sit in Portugal worrying about what the SPanish media think of their league?  Or in Austria, fretting about the German papers and TV?

This.

Too many in a position of power do though, that in itself is a problem.

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13 minutes ago, tree house tam said:

This.

Too many in a position of power do though, that in itself is a problem.

Worst example of this is the naming the leagues premiership, championship bollox. The Scottish Premiership.  Why not just call it the shitier than the english-one-dership?

We will never be comparable to down south, so why try to emulate when we'll always fail.  Differentiate, make value out of those differences.

The fucking cretins running our game btw, bah.

 

And why anyone would read anything Charlie Nicholas has 'written' when the c**t can hardly speak English is beyond me.

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