Miguel Sanchez Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 On 23/05/2021 at 08:14, Mark Connolly said: https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/rangers-campaign-to-turn-club-and-its-fans-into-social-pariahs-ignores-plight-of-young-working-class-white-males-john-mclellan-3246016 Holy f**k Come to think of it I've not seen @G51 in a while. I'm still reading that through my fingers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheJTS98 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: Just fired this off to the BBC - "The article on Kelty Rangers beating Brechin City is a total joke. Brechin did NOT join the Scottish League in 1954, they were members of the old Division Three between 1923-26 and Division Two between 1929-39, mothballed during the Second World War, and associate members (being in C Division) from 1947 to being promoted in 1954. Kelty are NOT joining the senior leagues - they already played in a senior league, the Lowland League is a senior league (as are The Highland League, the EoSl, the WosL and the SoSL). Barry Ferguson did NOT change grades when appointed Kelty's manager, he was still manger of a senior team. As a matter of interest, what level of football does BBC Scotland think the Lowland and Highland Leagues - and associated feeders - play at? Is it too much to expect that articles such as these are written by someone with a modicum of knowledge of Scotland's pyramid structure, or proof read by someone who has." Seething, etc Decent. But lacking an 'Imagine my dismay upon reading...' Edited May 25, 2021 by TheJTS98 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: Just fired this off to the BBC - "The article on Kelty Rangers beating Brechin City is a total joke. Brechin did NOT join the Scottish League in 1954, they were members of the old Division Three between 1923-26 and Division Two between 1929-39, mothballed during the Second World War, and associate members (being in C Division) from 1947 to being promoted in 1954. Kelty are NOT joining the senior leagues - they already played in a senior league, the Lowland League is a senior league (as are The Highland League, the EoSl, the WosL and the SoSL). Barry Ferguson did NOT change grades when appointed Kelty's manager, he was still manger of a senior team. As a matter of interest, what level of football does BBC Scotland think the Lowland and Highland Leagues - and associated feeders - play at? Is it too much to expect that articles such as these are written by someone with a modicum of knowledge of Scotland's pyramid structure, or proof read by someone who has." Seething, etc That is excellent. However, you just know that nobody with any interest in Scottish football at the BBC is ever going to even see that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 11 hours ago, lionel wickson said: Love the wee dig at Tom English there. Well, it wasn't deliberate! Takes the shine off my seethe... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: Well, it wasn't deliberate! Takes the shine off my seethe... Subconscious eh? Big team most definitely found... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, Ranaldo Bairn said: Subconscious eh? Big team most definitely found... I was thinking of Brora Rangers, honest... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Shaker Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 18 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: If you surveyed their presenters and pundits I'd be confident that less than half would properly know about Highland and Lowland under SPFL2 I think the senior v junior terminology argument peaked in 2019 when Cove were playing at Berwick and Jim Spence ended up throwing a massive sulk and went off blocking everyone on Twitter who asked what the f**k he was talking about when he said 'Cove going up would give Aberdeen two senior teams'. What an afternoon that was. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumper Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 I genuinely don't know why people are so perplexed that the average BBC pundit doesn't understand the pyramid structure. They have almost no interest in anything below the Championship. Things might improve over time now that League Two teams are getting beaten in the playoffs every year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 It’s not so much being perplexed, just more irritation that the BBC pundits are more than happy to be totally ignorant, and really don’t give a shit about the kind of feedback on the last few pages of this thread. They’d rather fill the void of their knowledge with ignorant speculation and gibberish rather than...actually do a 20 minute google and inform themselves. They do need a roving reporter with a working knowledge of football below the top two leagues and how the pyramid actually works. But it’s a cold world out there for journalists presently so they won’t bother. There’s a long history of this. I remember when Seetheco played their first ever league match at Balmoor. The sneering coverage and outright contempt shown by the likes of Spiers, Keevins et al towards that level of football was rammed tight up them by the tribute act being lucky to escape that day with a 2-2 draw. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 McFadden and Boyd clearly knew nothing about Dundee going by the shite they were coming out with last night. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Written by Tom English, who clearly doesn't understand irony considering he spent a solid 2 months crying about how unfair it was Hearts couldn't push through reconstruction to save them from relegation last Summer. Extra content that Hearts had finished in an automatic relegation spot and Brechin did not. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: Written by Tom English, who clearly doesn't understand irony considering he spent a solid 2 months crying about how unfair it was Hearts couldn't push through reconstruction to save them from relegation last Summer. Extra content that Hearts had finished in an automatic relegation spot and Brechin did not. The small difference of course being that Brechin knew they were playing 22 league games this season and Hearts didn't know they were only going to play 26/27 (?) games last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afca32 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, TheScarf said: The small difference of course being that Brechin knew they were playing 22 league games this season and Hearts didn't know they were only going to play 26/27 (?) games last season. Brechin were due to play 27 but after the league was suspended in January it was reduced to 22. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Just now, afca32 said: Brechin were due to play 27 but after the league was suspended in January it was reduced to 22. Yes but they knew in advance they'd be playing 22. They'd only payed 11 or something when Leagues One and Two were suspended. Hearts weren't told they'd only play 27. It's a totally different scenario. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 That whole article is mess, to be honest. It's framed as a review of the Scottish football season but it barely breaks out of the Premiership and has three sections on "bonkerdom" instead of a full review of the things that actually define a football season - titles, promotions and relegations. At the very least I'd have expected some commentary on Killie's fall from grace finally being complete, and Kelty being promoted to the SPFL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 17 hours ago, Ivo den Bieman said: It’s not so much being perplexed, just more irritation that the BBC pundits are more than happy to be totally ignorant, and really don’t give a shit about the kind of feedback on the last few pages of this thread. They’d rather fill the void of their knowledge with ignorant speculation and gibberish rather than...actually do a 20 minute google and inform themselves. They do need a roving reporter with a working knowledge of football below the top two leagues and how the pyramid actually works. But it’s a cold world out there for journalists presently so they won’t bother. Wouldn't even take that long, 5-10 minutes on Wikipedia and you'd have a good enough understanding and be better informed than most of the Sportsound team. @HibeeJibee at least the P&J corrected one of their stories. Another one talking about the senior game and at the same time the national set up, very confused. https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/opinion/columnists/david-ross/3169852/brechin-relegation-highlands-islands-football-teams-david-ross-opinion/ Apparently he is a veteran Highland journalist and author of an acclaimed book about his three decades of reporting on the region... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 23/05/2021 at 09:29, Ric said: Jesus f**k that is a mess. No surprise, I suppose, it is the Hootsman after all. From someone who claims to have Rangers leanings but rarely attending games, he goes on to throw out every excuse possible other than "of course, the real people to blame are the Rangers fans who fought and trashed the place". Instead throwing out excuse after excuse, contrived mitigation after contrived mitigation moving onto "they other side are just as bad" only to end on the "it doesn't matter what you think, there are generations of inbred hatred and that's something that should be applauded rather than condemned". The only good thing here is that my adblocker is stopping me viewing the comments, God forbid what sort of toxic mess those are. A Conservative Councillor having a not very veiled dig at the SNP, supporting his Union flag waving sectarian brothers and sisters, what a shocker that is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 minute ago, LIVIFOREVER said: A Conservative Councillor having a not very veiled dig at the SNP, supporting his Union flag waving sectarian brothers and sisters, what a shocker that is. I'm less bothered about the councillor, seeing as they are a Conservative it's clear they are an utter c**t who hates everything Scottish. The Scotsman, though, should at least have realised what a fucking mess the piece is and pulled it before it was published. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Great insight from Stubbs. Gutted we have missed out on thousands of words worth of features from guys who knew from the way Eddie Howe held a door open for once that he was destined for the top. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Argyle Fyfe Eastern West Lothian Dumbartonshire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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