Savage Henry Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Watching the goals again in the cold light of day, James Forrest's "assist" for Ritchie's goal (probably the best finish I've seen from a Scotland player in the last five years) is actually a misplaced ten yard sclaff. He's trying to pass to Scott Brown and missed by a mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 At no time did I state that he was the saviour . Rather the fact that he has not and will not get the chance to prove himself in the current set up . So your vision for the future is to ignore young talent and just keep plodding along in obscurity ? And where did Robertson figure last night ? That's right , he didn't ! Ah! The rankings !! That makes the latest failure to qualify all the more comfortable to digest ! Would the idiot element be the media by any chance ? Gauld will get a chance when he gets a run of games and proves himself. As has been said, robertson is a great player and can be caught defensively Sometimes. Hence why whittacker was chosen. Some people are absolutely clueless. I despair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chazas_ Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Robertson being poor defensively isn't really even a relevant argument considering Whittaker's actually a right back and Alan Hutton was playing there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OFFS DUNDEE!! Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 image.jpg I think he'll find it will only be for 8 days or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Cringing listening to Strachan blaming deflections and bad luck. Take it he never seen our goal against Georgia... Or our first against Germany at Hampden, or our goal in Dublin. We weren't unlucky, we just weren't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Gauld will get a chance when he gets a run of games and proves himself. As has been said, robertson is a great player and can be caught defensively Sometimes. Hence why whittacker was chosen. Some people are absolutely clueless. I despair Clueless ?? Gauld has been a stand out player in the last couple of U21 games . This hasn't happened purely by chance. His consistency in Sporting's B team has been regularly commented on . I would like to think he was due a start just to guage how far off he is . Edit .....It's not as if he is trying to break into a world class side after all ! As for Robertson V Whittaker , it's all a matter of opinion . Some folk just base their opinions on who they used to play for rather than ability so it is hard to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Clueless ?? Gauld has been a stand out player in the last couple of U21 games . This hasn't happened purely by chance. His consistency in Sporting's B team has been regularly commented on . I would like to think he was due a start just to guage how far off he is . As for Robertson V Whittaker , it's all a matter of opinion . Some folk just base their opinions on who they used to play for rather than ability so it is hard to judge. Perhaps, just perhaps, that happens in the juniors/ OF forum. Otherwise, they really, really don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Perhaps, just perhaps, that happens in the juniors/ OF forum. Otherwise, they really, really don't. Whittaker isn't 'marginally' better defensively. He's light years ahead of Robertson in that respect. Hmmm ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calum_gers Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Hmmm ??? Interesting that you don't pick the Dundee United fan who can't see past Robertson or the objective Ross County fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Hmmm ??? Just because Robertson happened to play for his team's rivals doesn't make him wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Interesting that you don't pick the Dundee United fan who can't see past Robertson or the objective Ross County fan. That was the one that stood out for me. I could also have used your backing of Whittaker but it didn't really have the same bite to it. Personally I have to lean towards Robertson given my previous posts about giving youth a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoriginalhedge Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Just because Robertson happened to play for his team's rivals doesn't make him wrong. Of course not. I was merely offering a cynical alternative. As I said , it is all a matter of opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 How would you explain Whittaker starting ahead of Robertson then? I think it's fairly obvious that Strachan ignores youth. The fact that people have to use twenty five year olds when trying to claim otherwise tells you all you need to know really. I used twenty five years as a response to someone who said Strachan only starts picking people when they reach 26. Strachan played A 23 year old at centre half and a 24 year old on the wing but I suppose that is detriment to your pointless argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Even if it was true it's not a good enough reason. I'd take the guy who offers lots going forward but is slightly worse defensively Well it is true, that's not up for debate. And whether you'd choose to do something different, and whether Strachan should have too, is a whole different argument. I was passing comment on your "lolling" at the suggestion Whittaker is a better defender than Robertson. That's something undeniably true, not something to be lolled at. Yup. I wouldn't say Robertson's naive defensively, I'd say he's poor defensively. I really don't get the stick that Whittaker and, particularly, Hutton, get. They'd be my first choice full backs for 90% of the games. I think they both did more than decent jobs last night and as a whole across the campaign. He is poor at the moment. He will hopefully learn though. Tend to agree. I think Bardsley is better than both and am not sure quite why he was never invited back after long term injury, though he's possibly too old now, but yes, Hutton has done well for us generally and Whittaker tends not to let us down even when playing "wrong side". Don't think Hutton's been especially good lately though. Robertson being poor defensively isn't really even a relevant argument considering Whittaker's actually a right back and Alan Hutton was playing there. Well of course it's a relevant argument. In fact it the whole damned argument. You can say you'd rather go with the more forward thinking player if you like. I may even agree with you at this stage though I do prefer my defenders to actually defend first and foremost. However, If Whittaker even playing on the wrong side is a better defender than Robertson (and he is) then it's an entirely relevant argument to play him there in games where the manager wants to try to defend a little better or feels we'll be under pressure at the back for much of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 i know its based on opinions, but where the hell are people seeing any sort of defensive side to whittaker, since he joined rangers until now i cannot ever think of him being nothing but a bombscare in defence, his positioning is terrible, reading of the game is awful and his reactions are criminal for the level he plays at i can honestly say i cannot remember whittaker ever being noted after a game for his defensive contribution other than that, unless scotland want to continue trying to plod along in the hope we fluke a good group draw and a bit of luck in the games, we need to perhaps give up in the hope of qualifying for the next two events and start bringing together a team that will have the chance to play at international level for years to come Lets face it a lot of the current crop have failed in numerous qualifying campaigns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawfield shed boy Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Huttons 1st touch away to poland for their 1st goal should have been his last.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewHope Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 ImageUploadedByPie & Bovril1444381037.204643.jpg Dick Is that where the 4 minutes came from? Seething. Anyone know who he is or where he stays...? I should add that I have just been trying to fit a brake cable on a bike for the past two hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I would probably of started an on form Robertson over Whittaker despite him being poorer defensively. At the moment however Whittaker is a first choice for a Premiership side whilst Robertson is struggling to get in the Hull team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 "You start if you are good enough" This doesn't take into consideration that Gordon Strachan is an absolute fucking clown with his selections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 "You start if you are good enough" This doesn't take into consideration that Gordon Strachan is an absolute fucking clown with his selections. In what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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