TheScarf Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 She's won everything possible in the sport, shes about 47 year old and she's now got an infant daughter. She should just fuck off and retire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 She's just making up excuses She should be apologising to the officials and her opponentI completely agree. Her behaviour was completely unbecoming of tennis - although let’s be careful of turning tennis into some kind beacon of sporting behaviour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 All these white knights appearing out of the woodwork to defend the honour of poor Serena from the oppressive devil white man The ubiquitous feminist victim card gambit in action - act a c**t, blame someone else, demand reparations, turn on the waterworks, screech about 'misogyny'. Alpha umpire not falling for it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, banana said: All these white knights appearing out of the woodwork to defend the honour of poor Serena from the oppressive devil white man The ubiquitous feminist victim card gambit in action - act a c**t, blame someone else, demand reparations, turn on the waterworks, screech about 'misogyny'. Alpha umpire not falling for it As much as I hate agreeing with this weirdo, a lot of comments on social media are very much along these lines I keep seeing people saying 'isnt it funny that the people disagreeing with Serena are men?' Or even 'white men' in some cases. Absolutely cretinous argument At least p&b is unanimous, always good to know there are some things that we can all agree on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 50 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The folk at the stadium were on her side and thought the ref was out of order, the reverse for people watching just the clips. She's a home favourite playing in front of a partisan crowd - that sort of behaviour tends to get excused to an extent in such circumstances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Binos said: The commentators, journalists, past players None of them can bring themselves to say it as it is She's a disgrace Many backing her. Sue Barker on the BBC website saying Serena "has a point" on the sexism claim and that the solution to Ramos "doing it by the book" is that "sometimes the rulebook has to be rewritten". She also says coaching will have to be allowed, rather than punished, plus game concessions should only be given by the tournament supervisor (who of course won't have been present when an incident occurs other than by chance through most of a competition). You've also got Marion Bartolli saying his decision was "totally not acceptable", and calling for him to be sanctioned as Williams didn't "curse or give verbal abuse" (?) especially when men "never get a warning for saying things that are 10 times worse" (except Ramos regularly does exactly that)... Chris Evert thinks she only went "a little too far but had every right to say it" - and Ramos should have "given her a break due to the enormity of the moment". Basically... it's the umpire's fault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Many backing her. Sue Barker on the BBC website saying Serena "has a point" on the sexism claim and that the solution to Ramos "doing it by the book" is that "sometimes the rulebook has to be rewritten". She also says coaching will have to be allowed, rather than punished, plus game concessions should only be given by the tournament supervisor (who of course won't have been present when an incident occurs other than by chance through most of a competition). You've also got Marion Bartolli saying his decision was "totally not acceptable", and calling for him to be sanctioned as Williams didn't "curse or give verbal abuse" (?) especially when men "never get a warning for saying things that are 10 times worse" (except Ramos regularly does exactly that)... Chris Evert thinks she only went "a little too far but had every right to say it" - and Ramos should have "given her a break due to the enormity of the moment". Basically... it's the umpire's fault. Calling him a liar and thief isn't verbal abuse? She pretty much accused him of being a cheat, though very cleverly avoided using that word. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, HibeeJibee said: Many backing her. Sue Barker on the BBC website saying Serena "has a point" on the sexism claim and that the solution to Ramos "doing it by the book" is that "sometimes the rulebook has to be rewritten". She also says coaching will have to be allowed, rather than punished, plus game concessions should only be given by the tournament supervisor (who of course won't have been present when an incident occurs other than by chance through most of a competition). You've also got Marion Bartolli saying his decision was "totally not acceptable", and calling for him to be sanctioned as Williams didn't "curse or give verbal abuse" (?) especially when men "never get a warning for saying things that are 10 times worse" (except Ramos regularly does exactly that)... Chris Evert thinks she only went "a little too far but had every right to say it" - and Ramos should have "given her a break due to the enormity of the moment". Basically... it's the umpire's fault. I'm absolutely shocked at the narrative I'm seeing today. What happened last night was a fucking disgrace. Simple as that. And there is a queue of 'experts' justifying it, plus the pieces I've read that condemn her are still full of caveats suggesting she was right 'a bit'. We really are living in a world where facts and justification don't seem to matter anymore. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Many backing her. Sue Barker on the BBC website saying Serena "has a point" on the sexism claim and that the solution to Ramos "doing it by the book" is that "sometimes the rulebook has to be rewritten". She also says coaching will have to be allowed, rather than punished, plus game concessions should only be given by the tournament supervisor (who of course won't have been present when an incident occurs other than by chance through most of a competition). You've also got Marion Bartolli saying his decision was "totally not acceptable", and calling for him to be sanctioned as Williams didn't "curse or give verbal abuse" (?) especially when men "never get a warning for saying things that are 10 times worse" (except Ramos regularly does exactly that)... Chris Evert thinks she only went "a little too far but had every right to say it" - and Ramos should have "given her a break due to the enormity of the moment". Basically... it's the umpire's fault. Sue Barker is talking bilge 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Is WelshBairn defending Serena, extraordinary 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 2 hours ago, MarkoRaj said: As much as I hate agreeing with this weirdo, a lot of comments on social media are very much along these lines I keep seeing people saying 'isnt it funny that the people disagreeing with Serena are men?' Or even 'white men' in some cases. Absolutely cretinous argument At least p&b is unanimous, always good to know there are some things that we can all agree on. 28 minutes ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: I'm absolutely shocked at the narrative I'm seeing today. What happened last night was a fucking disgrace. Simple as that. And there is a queue of 'experts' justifying it, plus the pieces I've read that condemn her are still full of caveats suggesting she was right 'a bit'. We really are living in a world where facts and justification don't seem to matter anymore. Delighted to see more of the P&B Massif getting their first real inklings of the massive scam that is Feminism. Now realise that Serena's tantrum and tactics is 40+ years par for the course for Feminism (and other victimhood activism) in education, academia, government, media, various tech industry, ... Welcome aboard the 'misogyny' train, chaps! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Delighted to see more of the P&B Massif getting their first real inklings of the massive scam that is Feminism. Now realise that Serena's tantrum and tactics is 40+ years par for the course for Feminism (and other victimhood activism) in education, academia, government, media, various tech industry, ... Welcome aboard the 'misogyny' train, chaps! [emoji4]The very definition of tedious. Serena pulled a McEnroe, and was bang out of order. I'm slightly surprised by the backing she's got (especially in the American media). But that's as much down to intimidation as anything else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, pandarilla said: The very definition of tedious. Serena pulled a McEnroe, and was bang out of order. I'm slightly surprised by the backing she's got here. But that's as much down to intimidation as anything else. You have to give Williams some credit here - she's acted like a complete arsehole, ruined the greatest moment of her opponent's young career, slandered an official, and she's still come out as the good guy. Politicians across the world will be desperate for her spin doctors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Have you seen her press conference where she cry’s about woman’s equality ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, ali_91 said: Serena Williams was obviously out of order, lost the plot and showed absolutely no class. Unfairly accusing the umpire of sexism is very poor as well. She’s still an icon though, a top professional, one of the greatest players of all time and an absolute wid. No, one of the greatest female players of all time, Even at her peak she wouldn't make the mens' top 200. Edited September 9, 2018 by Arch Stanton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 31 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: You have to give Williams some credit here - she's acted like a complete arsehole, ruined the greatest moment of her opponent's young career, slandered an official, and she's still come out as the good guy. Politicians across the world will be desperate for her spin doctors. You've just described Trump's playbook.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-coo-shed Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Crazy final. Felt sorry for Osaka. Serrena lost control of her emotions. The umpire was right but in the first instance maybe a bit of diplomacy would have been better. After that he was correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Same shite at my work. As men we are (told to) encouraged to support womans network events, participate in woman's week etc. Woman's network seminar. Normally I wouldn't mind as I'm for equality but they already hold greater than 50% of senior positions in my company. Nothing for men.... Positive discrimination at its worst and you can say f**k all about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Crazy final. Felt sorry for Osaka. Serrena lost control of her emotions. The umpire was right but in the first instance maybe a bit of diplomacy would have been better. After that he was correct.Absolutely this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I think the big man might do this tonight 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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