banana Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 18 hours ago, pandarilla said: The very definition of tedious. I'm slightly surprised by the backing she's got (especially in the American media). But that's as much down to intimidation as anything else. I'm aware that the truth is tedious to those uncomfortable accepting it. The backing is not surprising to anyone paying attention to the media stacked with 'Progressives' entrenched in Acceptable Narratives (identity group victimhood), and those who disagree either self-silencing or being silenced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Roid rage, IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Serena is a massive twat. So is banana. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Serena is massive. So is banana. Thanks, sweetheart 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 hours ago, k-ton said: To be fair to Murray, I doubt he places himself alongside those 3 either. Putting them to one side, he's been miles ahead of every other player over the last decade and at a level of consistency which in other eras would have given him 6 or 7 majors rather than 3. After all, he's only ever lost in major finals to either Federer or Djokovic. I'd certainly rank him alongside players like Edberg, McEnroe and Becker which isn't bad going. Indeed. He's kind of been on his own wee mezzanine tier just below the Big 3 for most of his career. Not as good as them, but miles better than the likes of Ferrer, Berdych, Roddick, Safin, Hewitt and Wawrinka. Despite the latter having the same amount of slams as him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-ton Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Indeed. He's kind of been on his own wee mezzanine tier just below the Big 3 for most of his career. Not as good as them, but miles better than the likes of Ferrer, Berdych, Roddick, Safin, Hewitt and Wawrinka. Despite the latter having the same amount of slams as him. Stan is, and will remain, an utter enigma. The man has only 16 career singles titles at ATP level and 3 of them are majors! He fluctuates between being a shambling, overweight mess to being a tennis god with little in between. When he's red lining I wouldn't back any player to beat him and yet when his head's not there I think I'd have a shot at taking a few sets off him. Yes, Murray's tennis legacy is significantly greater and rightly so. But I have a special place in my heart for Stan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, k-ton said: Stan is, and will remain, an utter enigma. The man has only 16 career singles titles at ATP level and 3 of them are majors! He fluctuates between being a shambling, overweight mess to being a tennis god with little in between. When he's red lining I wouldn't back any player to beat him and yet when his head's not there I think I'd have a shot at taking a few sets off him. Yes, Murray's tennis legacy is significantly greater and rightly so. But I have a special place in my heart for Stan. I might be talking shite but is he not the only male player ever to have more GS titles than Masters titles? Guys like Cilic have one each. Can't think of anyone else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Seems to me the public/media narrative has now become cemented and it's favourable to Williams v unfavourable to the 'sexist' umpire. Question now is what impact it has on Ramos' career. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-ton Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I might be talking shite but is he not the only male player ever to have more GS titles than Masters titles? Guys like Cilic have one each. Can't think of anyone else. Gaston Gaudio has one major and zero masters. Can't think of any other likely candidates immediately. ETA - Kafelnikov too apparently (2 majors and 0 masters) Edited September 10, 2018 by k-ton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, k-ton said: Gaston Gaudio has one major and zero masters. Can't think of any other likely candidates immediately. Ah I always forget about him. It was Coria who he beat in the final of the French who won a couple of Masters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Seems to me the public/media narrative has now become cemented and it's favourable to Williams v unfavourable to the 'sexist' umpire. Question now is what impact it has on Ramos' career. I hope it doesn't have an impact on his career. He is an umpire unafraid to make tough decisions. He once gave Novak a warning for pretending to throw his racquet at him. Novak then was as angry as Serena, but unlike Serena he accepted it and didn't question his integrity. He also didn't follow it up with further brat like action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Seems to be Arthur Ashe stadium just turns her into a mentalist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The ITF have released a statement defending Carlos Ramos. Saying he applied the rules with professionalism. Good for them.Serena was also fined 17k for her outburst. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtie23 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The ITF have released a statement defending Carlos Ramos. Saying he applied the rules with professionalism. Good for them.Serena was also fined 17k for her outburst.WTA have backed her tho 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, lichtie23 said: WTA have backed her tho The clue is in the name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Serena has a massive twat. According to banana.FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, John Lambies Doos said: FTFY Fcuk sake man, I have standards 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-coo-shed Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 To be fair to the press, the majority of journalists are sticking up for Ramos.There may be wider issues regarding double standards in tennis but you cant really defend her outburst in the final. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Anyone with a nouse of intelligence should be able to see Williams acted like a twat. Angry as she may have been, you can’t publicly blow up, especially in a slam final. Ramos was within his rights and within the rules to do what he did. There’s no wrong on his part at all, she’s just used to getting her own way for too long. It raises an interesting question, say that was a female umpire what would the reaction or even outcome have been? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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