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[peasy23]

Novak Djokovic: Rafael Nadal says Serb could be playing 'without a problem' if he wanted to - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/59892388

[welshbairn]

Hard to see what special circumstances Djokovic was claiming for his exemption. This is from a letter from the Australian Government advising Tennis Australia of the rules.

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To support this aim, the Australian Border Force has advised that people must be fully vaccinated, as defined by the ATAGI, to gain quarantine-free entry into Australia. As detailed in Ms Schofield’s correspondence of 18 November 2021, this means that people who do not ‘meet the ATAGI's definition of fully vaccinated will not be approved for quarantine-free entry, regardless of whether they have received foreign vaccination exemptions. In relation to your specific questions, | can confirm that people who contracted COVID-19 within the past six months and seek to enter Australia from overseas, and have not received two doses of Therapeutic Goods Administration IGA approved or TGA recognised vaccine (or one dose of the Johnson and Johnson COVID-19 vaccine), are not considered fully vaccinated.

 https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/06/novak-djokovic-to-challenge-australian-visa-cancellation-in-federal-court

[Bob in Denny]

Will his da takes to the streets?

Will Serbia declare war against the world?

 

who cares, the man's a jobby

 

[jamamafegan]

Sevco levels of arrogance on show from young Zoran here:

[Soapy FFC]

2 hours ago, peasy23 said:

Novak Djokovic: Rafael Nadal says Serb could be playing 'without a problem' if he wanted to - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/59892388

Nadal's comment sums it up perfectly

"He made his own decisions, and everybody is free to take their own decisions, but then there are some consequences."

[peasy23]

Hard to see what special circumstances Djokovic was claiming for his exemption. This is from a letter from the Australian Government advising Tennis Australia of the rules.

To support this aim, the Australian Border Force has advised that people must be fully vaccinated, as defined by the ATAGI, to gain quarantine-free entry into Australia. As detailed in Ms Schofield’s correspondence of 18 November 2021, this means that people who do not ‘meet the ATAGI's definition of fully vaccinated will not be approved for quarantine-free entry, regardless of whether they have received foreign vaccination exemptions. In relation to your specific questions, | can confirm that people who contracted COVID-19 within the past six months and seek to enter Australia from overseas, and have not received two doses of Therapeutic Goods Administration IGA approved or TGA recognised vaccine (or one dose of the Johnson and Johnson COVID-19 vaccine), are not considered fully vaccinated.

 https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/06/novak-djokovic-to-challenge-australian-visa-cancellation-in-federal-court
That doesn’t say that he wouldn't get in though, only that he wouldn't get quarantine free entry.

[paranoid android]

No-Vac Djokovic.

[Left Back]

BBC reporting protests in Belgrade.

His old man seems a right laugh.  Complaining about the hotel conditions, saying they're shite.  Also saying if they didn't want him there they could have told him not to come and it would have been fine.

Seems to me like he's in the hotel because of his own doing.  If he didn't appeal the decision he could have got on the next plane home instead of being parked up in the quarantine jail.

[Ginaro]

29 minutes ago, peasy23 said:

 https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jan/06/novak-djokovic-to-challenge-australian-visa-cancellation-in-federal-court
That doesn’t say that he wouldn't get in though, only that he wouldn't get quarantine free entry.

Of course, but he's not wanting to be in a hotel room for two weeks before the tournament. 

All seems fairly simple to me for entry to Aus - vaccinated or medical exemption (prior Covid in the last 6 months doesn't count for the latter, as communicated to Tennis Australia by the federal government). Unless he's changed his mind on vaccines then he seems to have turned up with nothing to prove an exemption (some suggestions of a TA letter).

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/why-novak-djokovic-s-visa-was-rejected-20220106-p59m9a.html

[HTG]

13 hours ago, peasy23 said:

He must have been really unlucky then, as he tested positive in June, which was more than 6 months ago. Has he had it again since?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/23/novak-djokovic-tests-positive-for-covid-19-amid-adria-tour-fallout

That's maybe the discrepancy in his application for exemption. Having seen his old man earlier, I'd just keep him in the hotel he's in for another few days to really wind the daft cùnt up - what a rocket that boy is. 

[Left Back]

1 hour ago, HTG said:

That's maybe the discrepancy in his application for exemption. Having seen his old man earlier, I'd just keep him in the hotel he's in for another few days to really wind the daft cùnt up - what a rocket that boy is. 

If the da’s a rocket the ma’s a solid fuel rocket booster.

They’re probably royalty at home because prisoner cell djock h is the only star the country has ever produced but they need to stop believing their own press.

[GiGi]

Clan Djokovic holding a conference with his AO trophies

This is fucking brilliant.

[peasy23]

That's maybe the discrepancy in his application for exemption. Having seen his old man earlier, I'd just keep him in the hotel he's in for another few days to really wind the daft cùnt up - what a rocket that boy is. 

As was posted further up though, it was made clear that prior positive tests, regardless of when they had happened, would make no difference to a players vaccination status.

[Bob in Denny]

 

[peasy23]

2 more players or officials are now being investigated as to the legitimacy of their vaccine exemption.

[Skyline Drifter]

Don't think anybody comes out of this with much credit to be honest (except maybe Nadal). Djokovic is clearly a self entitled fruit loop who expects rules to be bent for him to do as he chooses. He's free to choose not to have a vaccine if he wishes. He's then got to deal with the consequences for international travel and not expect to be free to go where he wishes. I sincerely hope the French, UK and US Govts do the same for the other majors.

However, the Aussies have handled this appallingly. Djokovic's vaccine scepticism is not a surprise and the fact he had been granted some sort of tournament exemption by the Victorian Govt was well known as he announced it himself. The national Govt and the state one don't seem able to coherently agree a policy, largely because the national one has performed a 360 degree backflip on the issue since finally reading the room in respect of public opinion. Scott Morrison must have a neck entirely made of brass as he tries to claim credit for a hard stance about 15 minutes after claiming it was a matter for the Victorian State legislators to decide.

The tournament organisers and State Govt appear on the face of it to have basically lifted their skirts to Novax and asked how far he'd like them to bend over. It's not a good look, although if it's correct that the exemptions were granted based on anonymous medical data then I've some sympathy for them. I've no doubt commercial aspects of the No 1 player's presence were a bigger factor than anything else though. The Indian Junior boy being denied entry because his country don't authorise vaccines for u18's yet is a far better case for an exemption than someone who consciously chooses to ignore medical advice.

Nadal hit the nail on the head earlier this week. Djokovic can choose what he likes but he has to accept the consequences of it. And whilst the Aussies could have handled this much better, he's in a quarantine hotel because he chose not to get vaccinated and chose not to turn round and go home when that was made clear. This could only get more stupid if he actually wins his legal appeal. Which would possibly be funnier. Are there crowds at the Aussie Open? If there are there's bound to be very little support for him there.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Skyline Drifter

[peasy23]

Don't think anybody comes out of this with much credit to be honest (except maybe Nadal). Djokovic is clearly a self entitled fruit loop who expects rules to be bent for him to do as he chooses. He's free to choose not to have a vaccine if he wishes. He's then got to deal with the consequences for international travel and not expect to be free to go where he wishes. I sincerely hope the French, UK and US Govts do the same for the other majors.
However, the Aussies have handled this appallingly. Djokovic's vaccine scepticism is not a surprise and the fact he had been granted some sort of tournament exemption by the Victorian Govt was well known as he announced it himself. The national Govt and the state one don't seem able to coherently agree a policy, largely because the national one has performed a 360 degree backflip on the issue since finally reading the room in respect of public opinion. Scott Morrison must have a neck entirely made of brass as he tries to claim credit for a hard stance about 15 minutes after claiming it was a matter for the Victorian State legislators to decide.
The tournament organisers and State Govt appear on the face of it to have basically lifted their skirts to Novax and asked how far he'd like them to bend over. It's not a good look, although if it's correct that the exemptions were granted based on anonymous medical data then I've some sympathy for them. I've no doubt commercial aspects of the No 1 player's presence were a bigger factor than anything else though. The Indian Junior boy being denied entry because his country don't authorise vaccines for u18's yet is a far better case for an exemption than someone who consciously chooses to ignore medical advice.
Nadal hit the nail on the head earlier this week. Djokovic can choose what he likes but he has to accept the consequences of it. And whilst the Aussies could have handled this much better, he's in a quarantine hotel because he chose not to get vaccinated and chose not to turn round and go home when that was made clear. This could only get more stupid if he actually wins his legal appeal. Which would possibly be funnier. Are there crowds at the Aussie Open? If there are there's bound to be very little support for him there.

As one government minister said in reply to Maw and Paw Djokovic, he isn't being held captive, he can go to the airport and get on a plane any time he likes.

[Skyline Drifter]

44 minutes ago, peasy23 said:

2 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said:

Don't think anybody comes out of this with much credit to be honest (except maybe Nadal). Djokovic is clearly a self entitled fruit loop who expects rules to be bent for him to do as he chooses. He's free to choose not to have a vaccine if he wishes. He's then got to deal with the consequences for international travel and not expect to be free to go where he wishes. I sincerely hope the French, UK and US Govts do the same for the other majors.
However, the Aussies have handled this appallingly. Djokovic's vaccine scepticism is not a surprise and the fact he had been granted some sort of tournament exemption by the Victorian Govt was well known as he announced it himself. The national Govt and the state one don't seem able to coherently agree a policy, largely because the national one has performed a 360 degree backflip on the issue since finally reading the room in respect of public opinion. Scott Morrison must have a neck entirely made of brass as he tries to claim credit for a hard stance about 15 minutes after claiming it was a matter for the Victorian State legislators to decide.
The tournament organisers and State Govt appear on the face of it to have basically lifted their skirts to Novax and asked how far he'd like them to bend over. It's not a good look, although if it's correct that the exemptions were granted based on anonymous medical data then I've some sympathy for them. I've no doubt commercial aspects of the No 1 player's presence were a bigger factor than anything else though. The Indian Junior boy being denied entry because his country don't authorise vaccines for u18's yet is a far better case for an exemption than someone who consciously chooses to ignore medical advice.
Nadal hit the nail on the head earlier this week. Djokovic can choose what he likes but he has to accept the consequences of it. And whilst the Aussies could have handled this much better, he's in a quarantine hotel because he chose not to get vaccinated and chose not to turn round and go home when that was made clear. This could only get more stupid if he actually wins his legal appeal. Which would possibly be funnier. Are there crowds at the Aussie Open? If there are there's bound to be very little support for him there.

As one government minister said in reply to Maw and Paw Djokovic, he isn't being held captive, he can go to the airport and get on a plane any time he likes.

The most interesting thing here is that presumably Maw and Paw Djokovic ARE full vaccinated or they wouldn't have got in themselves.

[die hard doonhamer]

12 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said:

The most interesting thing here is that presumably Maw and Paw Djokovic ARE full vaccinated or they wouldn't have got in themselves.

His parents are still in Belgrade

[Skyline Drifter]

1 minute ago, die hard doonhamer said:

His parents are still in Belgrade

Sorry, misunderstood when it said the rest of his entourage had been allowed entry. Didn't appreciate they weren't in it. Plus they were pictured at a press conference earlier with the trophy but presumably that's a replica he has in Belgrade.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Skyline Drifter