The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 So back to The Outcome. IMO nothing. The Diddies can whine like bitches but there is no mechanism to change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 So back to The Outcome. IMO nothing. The Diddies can whine like bitches but their is no mechanism to change anything. 75% agree, but the 'whining like bitches' line will be worth remembering for after Saturday's game at Almondvale I'm just curious about the one 'other' voter. What was their plan? Nuclear holocaust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 So back to The Outcome. IMO nothing. The Diddies can whine like bitches but their is no mechanism to change anything. If the only reason for no change is the absence of a mechanism through which to see justice done; then it's no wonder that whining will ensue. Imagine wishing to keep titles on such a basis though. Such towering insecurity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 If the only reason for no change is the absence of a mechanism through which to see justice done; then it's no wonder that whining will ensue. Here's the thing, Monkey. I have made many posts asking about 'mechanism'. I have even bored myself about it. The nearest anyone has come to a semi-sensible reply is you saying there should be a rerun of the LNS commission. I can only conclude that most diddies are happy with their 'cheats' or 'frauds' bollocks and haven't a fucking scooby at how to progress this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Here's the thing, Monkey. I have made many posts asking about 'mechanism'. I have even bored myself about it. The nearest anyone has come to a semi-sensible reply is you saying there should be a rerun of the LNS commission. I can only conclude that most diddies are happy with their 'cheats' or 'frauds' bollocks and haven't a fucking scooby at how to progress this. I don't disagree with you on nothing changing. I was merely highlighting the fact that if moral arguments for the retention of titles are lacking, as they appear to be, then that's pretty unsatisfactory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I don't disagree with you on nothing changing. I was merely highlighting the fact that if moral arguments for the retention of titles are lacking, as they appear to be, then that's pretty unsatisfactory. Oh well....we came close to a sensible discussion. You know I love a bit of Diddy cant but this one takes the biscuit: moral arguments for the retention of titles Sounds like those in the right should capitulate to the rule of the mob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Oh well....we came close to a sensible discussion. You know I love a bit of Diddy cant but this one takes the biscuit: moral arguments for the retention of titles Sounds like those in the right should capitulate to the rule of the mob. Those in the right?How so? I said such arguments were lacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Those in the right? How so? I said such arguments were lacking. The onus should never be on title-holders. The 'case' should be made by the title-stripping tossers based on evidence and due process. Nare a one has made such case which combines both elements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 The 'case' should be made by the title-stripping tossers. Do you think such wording helps in your quest for "sensible discussion" Kincardine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino7 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Bamby, it's a personal obsession which I have banged on about for years: Any c**t who regards posts on RM as normative in any way is a bell end. Fair play, I think it's class reading sometimes how mental some of your fellow fans are then there's classic threads such as Scotty Allan. I didn't say it was the norm on that forum either ma man, I said Marvin posts similar deluded mentalist shite their too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BinoBalls Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Oh well....we came close to a sensible discussion. You know I love a bit of Diddy cant but this one takes the biscuit: moral arguments for the retention of titles Sounds like those in the right should capitulate to the rule of the mob. Many sensible people believe Rangers shouldn't keep their titles. They employed a clandestine operation to recruit top class players partially funded from money that should have gone to the taxman. For 10 years. This gave them a sporting advantage. Which part(s) of the above have I got wrong? I'm less concerned with "process". If there's no process then there's no process but can we at least discuss & agree why so many ordinary/rational fans are angry about this. Are Rangers now so arrogant that anyone disagreeing with Dave King's world view should be dismissed out of hand as a Rangers-hating obsessive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Many sensible people believe Rangers shouldn't keep their titles. They employed a clandestine operation I stopped reading there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 So back to The Outcome. IMO nothing. The Diddies can whine like bitches but their is no mechanism to change anything. Slightly misogynist post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kildog Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Why are some Rangers fans so obsessed with what fans of other clubs think? The authorities and the media are likely to let yourselves kid on Rangers didn't cheat and didn't die, for as long as you want. What's the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Many sensible people believe Rangers shouldn't keep their titles. They employed a clandestine operation to recruit top class players partially funded from money that should have gone to the taxman. For 10 years. This gave them a sporting advantage. Which part(s) of the above have I got wrong? I'm less concerned with "process". If there's no process then there's no process but can we at least discuss & agree why so many ordinary/rational fans are angry about this. Are Rangers now so arrogant that anyone disagreeing with Dave King's world view should be dismissed out of hand as a Rangers-hating obsessive? The clandestine enterprise was entirely legal Now you may say that EBTs were illegal but that is not what the tax authorities tried to prove or what the courts found. There was a dispute about whether payments to players and officials required taxes paid for PAYE and NI. The court said taxes had to be paid, the Tax Avoidance scheme was ruled to not in fact avoid tax liabilities at all. HMRC never pressed that it was an illegal Tax Evasion scheme that ried to hide income off-shore and out of the reach of the authorities which if found to be true would have compelled criminal charges against the parties involved At the time Rangers failed to pay the tax man there were no rules about outstanding debts to tax authorities or any other financial fair play rules in place. Many clubs have spent beyond their means and gone unpunished. Should the funniest victory in scottish football history the 2012 Scottish Cup Final be wiped from the records because it was clear Hearts had no ability to pay their debt and the owner arrested for tax evasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Evidence: Process: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 So back to The Outcome. IMO nothing. The Diddies can whine like bitches but their is no mechanism to change anything. Whoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Funniest victory? I was buckled over for a good 60 minutes. The biggest ever Edinburgh Derby, a fixture where Hearts have dominated, Hibs and the Scottish Cup. It was a match that would have recalibrated the how people understood the rivalry. But Hibs fucked it up, Hearts dogpiled them and I saw so many Hibees faces tripping themselves at Queen Street minutes after the final whistle. The competition are the two playoff finals, Helicopter Sunday, maybe St Mirren vs 9 man Rangers. But Hearts 5-1 Hibs tops my list as the funniest game in Scottish football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Whoops Another disciple. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I stopped reading there. Then why did Rangers feel they had to hide the side-letters? If it wasn't clandestine, they had nothing to fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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