Glenconner Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Would have been better to take the seats out altogether, pretty sure they could cram a lot more folk in that way. Get your arse down to Charles St with a screwdriver and get to work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspy Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 We really need some tunnels. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino7 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 We really need some tunnels. No idea why they didn't do that instead of the new forth bridge to be honest. In fact it's about ££ and heritage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 No idea why they didn't do that instead of the new forth bridge to be honest. In fact it's about ££ and heritage. Geology apparently 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambino7 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Geology apparently I'm sure I read it would have cost a lot less to design and develop the tunnel to be honest Mr P. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 There's already a tunnel under the Forth 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Yep, connects Bo'ness and Valleyfield. Take it it's been well guarded over the years. Or else the Fifers would have poured through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Take it it's been well guarded over the years. Or else the Fifers would have poured through. It is by Scotrail and it is the location of there strategic stock reserve. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Oh yes better beware, us Fifers might just eat yer children... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordo1872 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 As a qualified engineer I'd say the bridge was probably on annual visual inspections, possibly reduced to six monthly if there was any particular concerns. An entirely reasonable examination frequency. Would be interested to know if these defects were new or being monitored closely. The photo I've seen shows a fatigue crack at a critical connection. Obviously not ideal. The problem then is identifying how quickly it has fractured and the extent of damage in other connections given the same detail would be replicated over the entire structure. They would have done this fairly quickly, and the fact the bridge is now closed suggests they didn't like what they found. In terms of a fix, physically getting to these will be the biggest problem. Largely dependant on weather and whether or not it's reachable by a walkway (unlikely) or by roped access. Then you have to get steel plates done there to fix it. Interesting to see how this one pans out but glad it ain't my job. A month to fix it would be good going. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 (edited) Oh yes better beware, us Fifers might just eat yer children...I've been to Oakley three times, the adults were in danger too. Edited December 6, 2015 by peasy23 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Take it it's been well guarded over the years. Or else the Fifers would have poured through. It connected the Kinneil and Valleyfield collieries and is probably still there even if the entrances to the old mine workings at both end are now blocked off. Not an answer to Scotland's transport issues obviously, but shows a tunnel was very much feasible and might have been the better option. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tout P'ti FC Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 http://gu.com/p/3zzvk?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspy Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 It connected the Kinneil and Valleyfield collieries and is probably still there even if the entrances to the old mine workings at both end are now blocked off. Not an answer to Scotland's transport issues obviously, but shows a tunnel was very much feasible and might have been the better option. I was surprised to see it only shutdown in the late 70's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 As a qualified engineer I'd say the bridge was probably on annual visual inspections, possibly reduced to six monthly if there was any particular concerns. An entirely reasonable examination frequency. Would be interested to know if these defects were new or being monitored closely. The photo I've seen shows a fatigue crack at a critical connection. Obviously not ideal. The problem then is identifying how quickly it has fractured and the extent of damage in other connections given the same detail would be replicated over the entire structure. They would have done this fairly quickly, and the fact the bridge is now closed suggests they didn't like what they found. In terms of a fix, physically getting to these will be the biggest problem. Largely dependant on weather and whether or not it's reachable by a walkway (unlikely) or by roped access. Then you have to get steel plates done there to fix it. Interesting to see how this one pans out but glad it ain't my job. A month to fix it would be good going. As posted earlier, the problem was identified in 2010 and a schedule of remedial works put into place. Which was cancelled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Oh yes better beware, us Fifers might just eat yer children... Can only go by what the people of Stirling say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 As posted earlier, the problem was identified in 2010 and a schedule of remedial works put into place. Which was cancelled. Was that not about the cables rather than the beams? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 I was surprised to see it only shutdown in the late 70's. Article from The Guardian about it: http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/scotland-blog/2014/apr/30/scotland-firthofforth-coal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Was that not about the cables rather than the beams? Title: Truss End Links Published by: Forth Road Bridge Publication Date: 25/05/2010 Application Deadline: Deadline Date: Cancelled Deadline Time: Notice Type: Contract Notice Has Documents: No Abstract: The Forth Road Bridge was opened in 1964 and now carries over 24 million vehicles per annum. Assessments of the suspended structure and the truss end connections have identified that several of the key elements forming these connections are overstressed. A feasibility study has been undertaken and a preferred option identified to strengthen the existing truss end link connection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted December 6, 2015 Share Posted December 6, 2015 Geology apparently Just got into that. Apparently i'm related to Winston Churchill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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