Ludo*1 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 And given its a better movie than A New Hope, I can forgive the glaring similarities. Oft, not having that. It's good but that's stretching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Oft, not having that. It's good but that's stretching it.It is better than a New Hope. Probably on a par with Return of the Jedi. Not as good as The Empire Strikes Back (but not by much). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I think A New Hope is good. No better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Saw it for a second time last night. It certainly holds up. Dragged my brother along and even he enjoyed it, despite being adamant that he had no desire whatsoever to see another Star Wars film. Observations a second time around: Han and Chewie really steal the show, they're fantastic I much preferred Maz Kanata on a second viewing Unconvinced by the "Snoke is Plageuis" theory Rey's "awakening" made more sense this time, it fitted in better than I remembered I love the opening scenes with the Stormtroopers in their transporter ships. There's just something "frightening" about it Phasma being Fett'd annoyed me even more this time around Han's death and Luke's reveal still pack a punch It's probably the joint-second best Star Wars film for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I think A New Hope is good. No better than that. Whilst I think The Force Awakens is a really good return to form (better than the prequels, and I prefer it over Jedi) it can't be compared to Starwars. JJ Abrams did a remarkable job but it was following the same Starwars formula that seen the originals so successful. The way Starwars influenced so many film makers, the technology and film making techniques that was invented in making the film, mean it will always be a better film than the story alone. The order of films in order of preference should be something like this: Empire> Starwars> The Force Awakens> Jedi> Sith> Menace> Clones I liked Revenge of the Sith over Jedi until very recently, but it hasn't aged that well. I said earlier on that Ren said Rey had been trained in the force, but that wasn't true. I misheard it. He says something like that she is very powerful in the force but is untrained and that she doesn't realise how strong she is in the force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Menace is a great deal behind the other prequels for me. I still find decent portions of the others watchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I think A New Hope is good. No better than that.That's akin to Denis Law's comment on the Man U side he played in, only being able to beat the present day side 1-0. "Only them all being over 70, would keep the score down" being the obvious answer.Star Wars is coming up 40 years old & technology has advanced by leaps & bounds. There were only 3 TV channels, VCR's weren't on the scene & video games were limited to two white lines batting a dot back & forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 That's akin to Denis Law's comment on the Man U side he played in, only being able to beat the present day side 1-0. "Only them all being over 70, would keep the score down" being the obvious answer. Star Wars is coming up 40 years old & technology has advanced by leaps & bounds. There were only 3 TV channels, VCR's weren't on the scene & video games were limited to two white lines batting a dot back & forth. Am I supposed to care about any of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirdcal Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 further thoughts on rey... what if she is rens half sister - Leia had another after han left, hence they do not know each other, only he knows of her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 further thoughts on rey... what if she is rens half sister - Leia had another after han left, hence they do not know each other, only he knows of her I heard she fucked the rancor keeper from Return of the Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munro7 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Menace is a great deal behind the other prequels for me. I still find decent portions of the others watchable. Arguably the best lightsaber fight from all the films is in Phantom Menace. Attack of the Clones has absolutely zero redeeming qualities at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Arguably the best lightsaber fight from all the films is in Phantom Menace. Attack of the Clones has absolutely zero redeeming qualities at all. thought the dooku part at the end was good, when he bitch slapped obiwan and anakin, only for yoda to slap him back in his place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 thought the dooku part at the end was good, when he bitch slapped obiwan and anakin, only for yoda to slap him back in his place That was awful. Yoda turned into a super fly ninja. YIP YIP YEE YEE. Attack of the Clones is turgid. The awful love scenes between Anakin and Padme, the awful cartoon battles at the end, super fly Yoda, the shitty Coruscant chase. It was awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Didn't mind most of the Coruscant stuff in any of the movies. Apart from the hilariously bad scene where the platform falls on Obi Wan in Sith before Anakin finishes Dooku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Ren's force powers seemed to weaken as the film went on, first 5 minutes of the film he stops a fucking blaster shot in mid air with the force, not even looking at it or even got his hand up as if he is controlling the force, but by the end of the film he cannot even steal a lightsaber from a force noob (she may not be a noob but in terms of this film alone she effectively is) Was he still supposed to be able to concentrate at his fullest after 1) killing his father; 2) taking a wookie bolt to the ribs, something that ended everything else it hit? There was also a bit of the "do not think, do" with Rey fighting for her life. Instinct taking over from the over thinking, over aggressive Ren. I think many people are wayyy overthinking a dece film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Formulaic and mediocre as a result, but an improvement on the prequels obviously. The next two could be good once there is more originality and less need to find a way to shoehorn in the cast from the original series and work in lines alluding to them. I thought the way Leia and Rey hugged at the end suggested at a mother-daughter reunion. Suspect Han Solo got killed off, because Mark Hammil and Harrison Ford are not able to work together amicably and maybe it is for the best as Ford's acting performance looked like it had been mailed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Or it's because Ford has been pimping the idea of Solo dying for ages and got his wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Or it's because Ford has been pimping the idea of Solo dying for ages and got his wish. Probably the only reason he agreed to a return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Suspect Han Solo got killed off, because Mark Hammil and Harrison Ford are not able to work together amicably and maybe it is for the best as Ford's acting performance looked like it had been mailed in. Where did you get that from? Harrison Ford would happily work with anything for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Probably the only reason he agreed to a return.Yeah I thought that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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