MarkoRaj Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 It's only a minority who are antisemitic so let's just ignore it. Not anywhere close to what I said, simpleton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Just now, Jmothecat2 said: I can't stand Johnson, and would like to see him sacked and legally prohibited from speaking but I can't help but think it's a bit of an overreaction to something that was clearly a joke. Maybe a bit crass and insensitive but a joke nonetheless. I get that we hold politicians to a higher standard but I just feel people are trying to be offended by the comments, rather than actually offended. The foreign minister makes jokes about dead bodies and the tory lite thinks its ok ffs 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 People in less sensitive roles have been sacked for far less. Joking about dead bodies a couple of days after mumbling aloud about the merits of colonialism while in Burma? He's either gone mental or is trying to get sacked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 People in less sensitive roles have been sacked for far less. Joking about dead bodies a couple of days after mumbling aloud about the merits of colonialism while in Burma? He's either gone mental or is trying to get sacked. I genuinely think his comments in Burma were worse yet there wasn't nearly the same reaction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Not anywhere close to what I said, simpleton You've basically said as its a minority that people shouldn't point it out as 'it's boring'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 You've basically said as its a minority that people shouldn't point it out as 'it's boring'. I'm referring to the vague claim that anti-semites are hiding behind anti-Zionism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I'm referring to the vague claim that anti-semites are hiding behind anti-Zionism. Which is true. That Jewish delegates spent conference talking about antisemitism highlights this. But you are happy to ignore them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Which is true. That Jewish delegates spent conference talking about antisemitism highlights this. But you are happy to ignore them. I'm happy to see evidence. Which I said in the post you quoted. Please don't reply to me. Your opinion is worthless 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I'm happy to see evidence. Which I said in the post you quoted. Please don't reply to me. Your opinion is worthless If you've not seen evidence or testimonies then you've obviously not been looking. Twitter was awash with them throughout conference. You are wilfully ignoring antisemitism, trying to sweep it under the carpet and suggesting it's 'boring' to bring it up. Now you are choosing to ignore the testimonies of Jewish delegates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 The foreign minister makes jokes about dead bodies and the tory lite thinks its ok ffs He's just glad it wasn't anti Semitic... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 If you've not seen evidence or testimonies then you've obviously not been looking. Twitter was awash with them throughout conference. You are wilfully ignoring antisemitism, trying to sweep it under the carpet and suggesting it's 'boring' to bring it up. Now you are choosing to ignore the testimonies of Jewish delegates. “Don’t accuse people of anti-Semitism when they criticise Israel” Jewish delegate tells the Labour Party conference https://t.co/IgTPANWHe5 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 “Don’t accuse people of anti-Semitism when they criticise Israel” Jewish delegate tells the Labour Party conference https://t.co/IgTPANWHe5 You've found a Jewish delegates who disagrees but ignore the vast majority who don't? Someone incidentally who was opposed to the antisemitism rule change that the vast majority of members, including antizionists, backed. She's someone on the fringes and a handful of Jewish delegates who want to diminish the antisemitism within the Labour Party doesn't undo the majority who have noticed it and point it out. Do you accept antisemitism is a problem on the left? Assuming your answer is yes, why do you have a problem with it being brought up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Tim Bale from Queen Mary University London has published some results of a survey on party memberships. Thought it was fairly interesting.Be interested to see a geographic breakdown of SNP membership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 You've found a Jewish delegates who disagrees but ignore the vast majority who don't? Someone incidentally who was opposed to the antisemitism rule change that the vast majority of members, including antizionists, backed. She's someone on the fringes and a handful of Jewish delegates who want to diminish the antisemitism within the Labour Party doesn't undo the majority who have noticed it and point it out. Do you accept antisemitism is a problem on the left? Assuming your answer is yes, why do you have a problem with it being brought up? I don't have a problem with anti-semitism being brought up you fucking moron. I'm objecting to it being conflated with anti-Zionism which is what this argument was about in the first place 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I don't have a problem with anti-semitism being brought up you fucking moron. I'm objecting to it being conflated with anti-Zionism which is what this argument was about in the first place Nobody is conflating it with antizionism. There are a lot of antizionists who are antisemitic, and use Israel as an attempted justification for their prejudiced views. You seem to think this shouldn't be brought up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 The multimillionaire farmers daughter, and MP for Angus, Kirstene Hair, has actually said something about something instead of being undecided. She wants the Scottish Agricultural Wages Board to be scrapped. The wage they set for farm workers in Scotland is £7.50 an hour, this is putting farmers off employing these money grabbing slackers, so the bold Miss Hair says that the board must be scrapped and a wage of £5 odds should be introduced immediately 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 The multimillionaire farmers daughter, and MP for Angus, Kirstene Hair, has actually said something about something instead of being undecided. She wants the Scottish Agricultural Wages Board to be scrapped. The wage they set for farm workers in Scotland is £7.50 an hour, this is putting farmers off employing these money grabbing slackers, so the bold Miss Hair says that the board must be scrapped and a wage of £5 odds should be introduced immediately They really don't help themselves do they? I just don't understand how they can be that selfish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, bob the tank said: The multimillionaire farmers daughter, and MP for Angus, Kirstene Hair, has actually said something about something instead of being undecided. She wants the Scottish Agricultural Wages Board to be scrapped. The wage they set for farm workers in Scotland is £7.50 an hour, this is putting farmers off employing these money grabbing slackers, so the bold Miss Hair says that the board must be scrapped and a wage of £5 odds should be introduced immediately That's odd, I'm sure I saw an article that said farmers were struggling to find workers as it is and Brexit would make this worse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Was there not a Tory recently who said unemployed Scots should go down to the south of England to pick fruit with Eastern European 'beauties' or something like that? A top lad update to the Tebbit speech. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 That's odd, I'm sure I saw an article that said farmers were struggling to find workers as it is and Brexit would make this worse. Kirstene wants "the right kind of workers, ones with a lot of farming experience, and won't wreck all the expensive equipment", but for the £5 odds pay grade. She made these comments on the radio 4 farming programme, so should be available for a listen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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