Ira Gaines Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Still an apologist for this fucking idiocy. I can understand folk from England voting for them given the lack of options to do otherwise, but actually going and defending this shite is laughable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1. The Tories are setting the agenda. 2. However important things like education (and relatively unimportant grouse shooting) are they are not the issues that people want to discuss at this time IMO. 3. Labour should be challenging all Johnson’s announcements. It wouldn’t be too difficult, but they won’t.1. The "easy access" media is fully behind the government and will not afford equal coverage to the opposition.2. You really think people will vote on birds getting shot or not rather than whether their kids get a decent education? Really?3. See(1) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: 1. The "easy access" media is fully behind the government and will not afford equal coverage to the opposition. 2. You really think people will vote on birds getting shot or not rather than whether their kids get a decent education? Really? 3. See(1) Make up your fucking mind. You posted earlier saying Labour was right not to appear on C4News, now you’re saying the MSM won’t give them a chance. With the exception of Brexit and Scottish Independence I am supportive of the direction Labour has taken under Corbyn but the man himself is a useless waste of space. Tactically Labour is all over the place. BYW your reading of my point about grouse shooting is totally wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Q. Who watches C4 News? A. Less than 500,000 people and very few swing voters. It's irrelevant. Trying to 'win the day' is pointless. Labour need to build a narrative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 The 'we're fucking useless as well' Labour narrative has already been built champ, gutted for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, Stinky Bone said: Think the point is that the opposition to government are not doing their job effectively. What do you think they should be doing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) The Conservative announcements have involved relatively large spending pledges, things like more police, more prison spaces. These kind of announcement are usually reserved for the Queens Speech, the budget or occasionally the party leaders speech at conference. Announcing them it the usually dead air of August silly season means the tories are trying to prepare for a snap election. They might not get the lead they calculate they can risk an election with it but you would expect the other parties to be in front of cameras to put their spin on it like "so there is a magic money tree when Boris needs one" etc. Not those words but something counter to their guff. Edited August 14, 2019 by dorlomin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 What do you think they should be doing?Opposing! Rather than supporting or abstaining, As is their want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Brother Blades said: Opposing! Rather than supporting or abstaining, As is their want. In actual reality rather than the Nat bubble they have been opposing. I might be wrong though. Do you have any examples of them supporting the Tories or abstaining? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, dorlomin said: The Conservative announcements have involved relatively large spending pledges, things like more police, more prison spaces. These kind of announcement are usually reserved for the Queens Speech, the budget or occasionally the party leaders speech at conference. Announcing them it the usually dead air of August silly season means the tories are trying to prepare for a snap election. They might not get the lead they calculate they can risk an election with it but you would expect the other parties to be in front of cameras to put their spin on it like "so there is a magic money tree when Boris needs one" etc. Not those words but something counter to their guff. Yip. If Corbyn had been making these kind of spending “pledges” he would be getting pilloried. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Brexit Party NI 5,248,533 30.5 new party 29 new party 39.7 Liberal Democrats ALDE 3,367,284 19.6 13.0 16 15 21.9 Labour Party S&D 2,347,255 13.7 10.8 10 10 13.7 Green Party of England and Wales G/EFA 1,881,306 11.8 4.0 7 4 9.6 Conservative Party ECR 1,512,809 8.8 14.3 4 15 5.5 Scottish National Party G/EFA 594,553 3.5 1.1 3 1 4.1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_European_Parliament_election_in_the_United_Kingdom#Results Here is your support for Labour. No one could be arsed rushing out for twenty minutes to make an "x" and back this new politics. That is what you can expect if you end up in a coalition with the Lib Dems because they will demand PR of some kind in return for their support and that is the future of Labours vote under Momentum. You can lie to yourselves till the cows come home, the only thing propping up their current vote is the distribution of voters means you have to vote for them to try to get the Tories out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Looking forward to the Brexit Party government with official Lib Dem opposition 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Looking forward to the Brexit Party government with official Lib Dem opposition Lib Dem statement 2023: 4 years ago Lib Dem ministers started agitating for a ban on plastic cutlery. It took us months to persuade Farage. We finally got the policy in an eve of conference trade, in return for deporting all foreign nationals. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Lib Dem statement 2023: 4 years ago Lib Dem ministers started agitating for a ban on plastic cutlery. It took us months to persuade Farage. We finally got the policy in an eve of conference trade, in return for deporting all foreign nationals. Instead of using wood on ice lolly stems we staunch yoon liberals forced the government to implement the Choc Ice Law. It was a tough trade off and Dame Jo Swinson believes paying for your health care can be softened with a nice Magnum or Solero from a biodegradable wrapper. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 This should be interesting, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49355591 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, WATTOO said: This should be interesting, https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49355591 Bolton has been in the UK this week. It'll be a done deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Johnson trying to copy his hero Thatcher and 'Falklands' his way to an election landslide, only to see our brave boys getting kicked around by Iran like the two-bob military power the UK is, would be pay-per-view gold if the US could only be trusted to stay out of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) Fat Cops have to be the most toe-curling cringe thing going. Some band with Euan McColm, Chris Deerin, and Al Murray. And Euan McColm (if he is behind the Brain Spanner account) has some cheek slagging anyone's appearance. Edited August 15, 2019 by Kejan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kejan said: Fat Cops have to be the most toe-curling cringe thing going. Some band with Euan McColm, Chris Deerin, and Al Murray. And Euan McColm (if he is behind the Brain Spanner account) has some cheek slagging anyone's appearance. I saw them on Sunday and I thought they were shite. Murray was decent on the drums I suppose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, HTG said: I saw them on Sunday and I thought they were shite. Murray was decent on the drums I suppose. Spanner looks like he's ate Stephen Daisley. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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