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Dominic Grieve seems to be somewhat bitter. This whole vote on asking the government via the queen to handover personal communications is very much a case of be careful what you wish for.

What next, hard disks of journalists ?

Fairly sure this goes against (ironically) ECHR type stuff.

Very Soviet.

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6 minutes ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said:

Dominic Grieve seems to be somewhat bitter. This whole vote on asking the government via the queen to handover personal communications is very much a case of be careful what you wish for.

What next, hard disks of journalists ?

Fairly sure this goes against (ironically) ECHR type stuff.

Very Soviet.

So much pish for a relatively short post.

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Just now, UsedToGoToCentralPark said:
12 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:
So much pish for a relatively short post.

Would you happily turn over all your emails, pm's, WhatsApp for no legal reasons?

I don’t see the relevance.

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4 minutes ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said:
16 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:
So much pish for a relatively short post.

Would you happily turn over all your emails, pm's, WhatsApp for no legal reasons?

If all concerned are doing their jobs properly and legally they won't need to hand over any communications.  If they've used social media to conduct official business they've broken the law.

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1 minute ago, Baxter Parp said:

If all concerned are doing their jobs properly and legally they won't need to hand over any communications.  If they've used social media to conduct official business they've broken the law.

Exactly.

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Dominic Grieve seems to be somewhat bitter. This whole vote on asking the government via the queen to handover personal communications is very much a case of be careful what you wish for.

What next, hard disks of journalists ?

Fairly sure this goes against (ironically) ECHR type stuff.

Very Soviet.
Absolute bollocks. I'm a civil servant, and regularly involved in disciplinary cases. If there is suspicion of misconduct, the the civil service code basically allows every aspect of the defendant's life to be laid bare. The solution is simple, if glib: don't do things you know are wrong.
This is why so many of the names on the list are so junior - you don't think the likes of JRM or Javidare daft enough to be having conversations or issuing orders that could be traced back to then, do you?
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8 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

Absolute bollocks. I'm a civil servant, and regularly involved in disciplinary cases. If there is suspicion of misconduct, the the civil service code basically allows every aspect of the defendant's life to be laid bare. The solution is simple, if glib: don't do things you know are wrong.
This is why so many of the names on the list are so junior - you don't think the likes of JRM or Javidare daft enough to be having conversations or issuing orders that could be traced back to then, do you?

You have to hand over your phone and laptop with passwords to access all your emails, text messages and phone records, without being accused of a crime?

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16 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

Absolute bollocks. I'm a civil servant, and regularly involved in disciplinary cases. If there is suspicion of misconduct, the the civil service code basically allows every aspect of the defendant's life to be laid bare. The solution is simple, if glib: don't do things you know are wrong.
This is why so many of the names on the list are so junior - you don't think the likes of JRM or Javidare daft enough to be having conversations or issuing orders that could be traced back to then, do you?

None of the SPADs like Cummings or politicians like Boris are civil servants.

 

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You have to hand over your phone and laptop with passwords to access all your emails, text messages and phone records, without being accused of a crime?
Yep. (In my area of the CS, at least, but we are also covered by the OSA)

All data discovered is strictly controlled, anything which is irrelevant is redacted, and all data obtained is destroyed if no case to answer.
Shite, I agree, but maybe Yer Average Punter would linked to think that those serving the public - at whatever level - were subject to scrutiny?
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18 hours ago, UsedToGoToCentralPark said:

Dominic Grieve seems to be somewhat bitter. This whole vote on asking the government via the queen to handover personal communications is very much a case of be careful what you wish for.

What next, hard disks of journalists ?

Fairly sure this goes against (ironically) ECHR type stuff.

Very Soviet.

What if the sports journalists in Scotland were compelled to do likewise, the courts would end up with about 50 copies of" Level 5 - The Jabba Tales of Wonderment"   😀

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