Antlion Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 This topic was inspired by another thread. It's easy to look back in history and identify famously great orators and men/women of state. Even if one doesn't agree with their policies (and I sure as hell don't), it's difficult to argue with people like Thatcher, Blair* and Churchill being pretty good statespeople. *My caveat with Blair is that he seems to have been the inspiration for all the plastic, platitudinous, personality-free types we have today; still, it was his very successful *thing* and I guess it isn't his fault it has led to hundreds of crappy clones (like Cameron). But today I genuinely struggle to think of any political figures who would qualify as great, talented men and women of state, who can hold their own on the world stage. Can you? Although I'm an independence supporter, even if I wasn't I reckon I would nominate Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon: one for being a big and commanding personality, the other for having iron-clad discipline and a common touch I never expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Briggs Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 But today I genuinely struggle to think of any political figures who would qualify as great, talented men and women of state, who can hold their own on the world stage. Can you? Although I'm an independence supporter, even if I wasn't I reckon I would nominate Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon: one for being a big and commanding personality, the other for having iron-clad discipline and a common touch I never expected. Angela Merkel as she dominates German and European politics. She's probably the most powerful woman politician ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Cameron is a bigger statesman than Salmond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Cameron is a bigger statesman than Salmond. TBF Eck has been on the Atkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 Angela Merkel as she dominates German and European politics. She's probably the most powerful woman politician ever. Angela Merkel is a good shout if we're going global. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Although I'm an independence supporter, even if I wasn't I reckon I would nominate Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon: one for being a big and commanding personality, the other for having iron-clad discipline and a common touch I never expected. The Pooh and Piglet of British politics? You're very easily pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 I forgot Willie Rennie. With an iron fist he smashed Ad Lib's conference motion, showing his truly masterful leadership qualities in the face of spirited opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Medeiros Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Aung san sui kyi /thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Hanzala Malik MSP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Lula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermik Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Kolinda Grabar-Kitarović Haven't a scooby what her politics are but she sure gets my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus2 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 The Pooh and Piglet of British politics? You're very easily pleased. Ah a true blue yoon I take it your heroine is Maggie Thatcher or You get advice on Fiances from Gideon Osbourne but While Nicola is a formidable politician as was and is Alex Salmond but the most impressive female person in world politics is Malala Yousafzai who has risked death for her beliefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 the most impressive female person in world politics is Malala Yousafzai who has risked death for her beliefsShe's an irritating wee twerp though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Putin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRuffian Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Ramzan Kadyrov? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Angela Merkel as she dominates German and European politics. She's probably the most powerful woman politician ever. I could agree with that had you said that a year ago, but she's annihilated her legacy with how she handled the ongoing migrant crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Ah a true blue yoon I take it your heroine is Maggie Thatcher or You get advice on Fiances from Gideon Osbourne but While Nicola is a formidable politician as was and is Alex Salmond but the most impressive female person in world politics is Malala Yousafzai who has risked death for her beliefs I'm not sure being shot and then offering various platitudes should really qualify someone as a great political figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 I'm not sure being shot and then offering various platitudes should really qualify someone as a great political figure. That's my thoughts. Okay, she gets the sympathy vote but great political figure. Naw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 Sturgeon is a far more effective politician that I ever could have imagined, she filled an important vacumn that I thought would have existed after Salmond's resignation post the referendum defeat. She was undoubtedly the outright winner in the Leaders' debates prior to the last GE and was a significant contributor to the SNP's election walkover. Stateswoman? I don't think she's earned that title yet but maybe down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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