Dosser1886 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, well fan for life said: Butcher's booking was up there with Johnston's goal for me. A tremendous tactical foul. A bit of "game management" at that and many other points of the game. We getting street smart at long last?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 For me, the most important thing about last night was that it was literally the first time that the team acted like they knew they were in a relegation battle. The thing that's been driving most of us mad is how passive and meek the team have been but it looks like a combination of Hammell being emptied (which unlike GA, I assume the squad didn't want to happen) and whatever Kettlewell has been saying finally had the desired effect. I think when the dust settles and whether we go down or escape, the late signings of Butcher and Casey will be the most important transfer business we did this season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Desp said: All three on the shortlist have actually been named on this thread. I've certainly got my favourite who I'd like to see get it, and it's not Jack Ross. @capt_oats is right now preparing a spreadsheet with all the managers mentioned so far with career win %, with the ones that we can safely rule out coloured red Given this thread is 2300+ pages long, it might take a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 9 hours ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: I'm starting to become a bit of a Kettlewell stan. If he doesn't get the job I'm giving the next guy 45 minutes before I start demanding he's reinstated. Aye, I’ve gone from ‘absolutely not’ to ‘absolutely’. Get rid of the board doing 3 hour long interviews, our selection process should involve giving every candidate one pre-match interview and one game. Then put it to a fan vote. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Desp said: All three on the shortlist have actually been named on this thread. I've certainly got my favourite who I'd like to see get it, and it's not Jack Ross. Are these the names Desp? I can guess which would be your choice tbf. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 For what it's worth, I'd be absolutely fine with any of these. Jack Ross: Ian Holloway: Grant McCann: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 From the outside, and perhaps unfairly, I'd be wary of taking Holloway. Either of the other pair fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZX1886 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Ian Holloway / KVV reunion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, well fan for life said: Butcher's booking was up there with Johnston's goal for me. A tremendous tactical foul. In the excitement of a winning position I have totally blanked this incident, what happened? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 The narrative demands that Jack Ross returns to relegate United. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, ropy said: In the excitement of a winning position I have totally blanked this incident, what happened? St Mirren were breaking from our corner in the second half and Butcher couldn't have been more blatant at swiping their players legs from him before they could get the pass away. A shithouse on and off the park. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_no_1 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Ian Holloway would be absolute box office. Make it happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) Going from someone with zero managerial experience to someone who would join the 1000 game club while with us is quite a reaction Edited February 16, 2023 by Swello 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoF Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Can someone remind me again why Hibs sacked Ross? Thought it was mental at the time and looking at his record it still seems mental. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Holloway would be a great addition to Scottish fitba'. Ross always need a transfer window - he's not getting one of those straight away. None of my business really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boozyBJ Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Pardon my ignorance, but who is Grant McCann? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al B Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, CoF said: Can someone remind me again why Hibs sacked Ross? Thought it was mental at the time and looking at his record it still seems mental. A good mate of mine is a Hibee, and in any of our conversations about Ross and Alexander we always just seemed to be saying the exact same things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 I mean, if that is the shortlist then absolutely fair play to the board. I was quite chippy about it yesterday but all 3 have pros & cons and interestingly all 3 are different types of manager. On the face of it McCann feels like the sort of profile we quite like: Experienced but still only mid-40s but equally not "high profile" (see @boozyBJ's question above). It's worth mentioning that Peterborough were still 8th when he left the job last month so his "failure" there so to speak was not having them in the promotion conversation. His relegation with Hull was unfortunate in that it was the Covid season. He'd lost Jarrod Bowen to West Ham (and then gave us £1m for Jimmy Scott) then by the time their league re-started a bunch of players including Jackson Irvine and Stephen Kingsley opted not to sign deals that would allow them to play in those fixtures. They went from comfortable 14th at the end of January when they sold Bowen to relegated. He got them promoted but was sacked when they were taken over by some Turkish mob. He had Doncaster in the promotion play-offs as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Jack Ross would probably be good and also quite funny. Holloway would maybe be good and definitely be mental. I don't know who Grant McCann is. It'll be Grant McCann. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Al B said: A good mate of mine is a Hibee, and in any of our conversations about Ross and Alexander we always just seemed to be saying the exact same things. I didn't like us renewing Alexander when we did given his history but the little bit of optimism I had said maybe he's learned from three identical sackings...nope. Despite their cash, Hibs have no more top three finishes in the modern era than us and Ross got them their first in 16 years along with three cup finals. That has to be respected regardless of how it ended. Size 72 IF in contrast to GA he has learned from how it ended and is willing to risk a little expansion after solidifying things there's little doubt he's a good appointment (assuming United a comic aberration on both sides). That if is impossible for us outsiders to know but you'd say it's rarer for a manager to adapt like that than just be themselves - it's why so many have limited shelf lives after being the next big thing. Edited February 16, 2023 by Handsome_Devil 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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