DaveMackay56 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, 18May1991 said: Yup. That was definitely the problem. It was definitely an issue in the first half 22/23. In the second half it wasn’t the problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Ewan McVicar's dad being the new CEO feels v Motherwell in 2024 tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsome_Devil Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said: Ewan McVicar's dad being the new CEO feels v Motherwell in 2024 tbh. To show my age/ignorance here, who is Ewan McVicar? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, Handsome_Devil said: To show my age/ignorance here, who is Ewan McVicar? Was literally typing who the f**k is Ewan McVicar? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camer0n_mcd Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 St Mirren supporting DJ. Had a song do well in the charts back in 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 If you've been anywhere near a radio in Scotland in the last year or so you have heard Ewan McVicar even if you haven't heard of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Tell me something good, tell me that you love me. That guy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camer0n_mcd Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, camer0n_mcd said: St Mirren supporting DJ. Had a song do well in the charts back in 2021 If you want a listen of said song. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Handsome_Devil said: Often when time passes you get a better perspective on things but our rallying call still seems as bizarre as ever. It's a total guess but I strongly suspect McMahon and Weir just blundered into an area they don't know - ie communication/marketing - and made a bollocks of it. I asked before and didn't get an answer (and I know it's a daft question because of details etc), but I would love to see the back of an envelope business plan which leads people - in our boardroom or stands - to conclude we'll be better off with investors trying to take money out the club than we are now. There are many owners of football clubs much bigger than Motherwell who have lost fortunes and continue to lose fortunes. With the notable exception of Fergus McCann is there anyone in Scottish Football who has walked away a richer man or woman having invested in a Scottish Football club. Genuinely I cannot think of one. Which is why I will repeat myself. If it is a return on investment you are after Bitcoin is probably a safer option. In fact I would put a casino up there as offering a better chance of a one off windfall. If however you are a wealthy individual and want to waste / spend some money on a plaything before you depart this world - then football clubs are right up there it would appear. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowsdower Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 A nice boring appointment. I look forward to berating him for something thats not his job at some point in the future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, welldaft said: Remains to be seen what the investment looks like for St Johnstone but surprising they can (apparently) attract US investment and well it looks like we cannot. We're not getting an "investor", we're getting an owner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Wan who is into five-a-sides & funeral wake money laundering schemes 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 25 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: Wan who is into five-a-sides & funeral wake money laundering schemes And Jehovahs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vietnam91 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said: Tell me something good, tell me that you love me. Not sure if that's lyrics or you need an intervention Joe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Spittal away...its Ross Tierney szn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, YassinMoutaouakil said: Spittal away...its Ross Tierney szn Bring him home. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWell Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 4 hours ago, capt_oats said: See, I don't think it has to be 'transformational' investment or anything but the trade off has to be proportional and on our terms. Actively looking to bring investment into the club is, IMO, A.Good.Thing but rolling out an investment pitch in the way McMahon did, at a point where everything was as up in the air as it was, when we didn't have a permanent CEO in place was again IMO, utterly fucking dumb. Aye, I tend to agree with this. Wasn't meaning to come across as not into investment, as I've said before I'm in favour of it if it's right for the club. All just rumour I suppose, but from what I've heard these aren't great offers of investment and I wouldn't want us trading off a chunk of the club for something that really wasn't worth it in the long run. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vietnam91 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 6 hours ago, capt_oats said: See, I don't think it has to be 'transformational' investment or anything but the trade off has to be proportional and on our terms. Actively looking to bring investment into the club is, IMO, A.Good.Thing but rolling out an investment pitch in the way McMahon did, at a point where everything was as up in the air as it was, when we didn't have a permanent CEO in place was again IMO, utterly fucking dumb. So aye. Get Ewan McVicar's Da' in, stabilise things and let McMahon step down in the summer then see how things go. Hopefully we can get back to making Good Decisions rather than the fuckery of the past 18 months. To give a bit of context here and maybe explain why it needed to be done. McMahon stood up at the 2022 AGM and went on about the hole that needed plugged due to the perfect storm trinity we've all been exposed to so often. At the time I am sure £300,000k was the figure used as the hole (now £750k). The unique way the club has evolved, the brand, the community and social outreach, the family element, hard working town, down on luck and the non sectarian stuff was all highlighted that would be something they hoped a company or individual would like to align with. Fast forward to AGM 2023. Jim gives almost the same presentation word for word. Upon finishing and opening to the floor I said (and I paraphrase from memory) "Jim, that's pretty much was you said a year ago, if this funding gap is so significant and way in excess of the 100k we are saving on the pitch now, why has nothing been done?". Jim held his hands up and apologised saying that the ball had been dropped and eyes taken off said ball by other issues. Simply put, McMahon couldn't show up at the most recent one having said nothing has been done on this front for an additional year, he had to have something to show. The WS put out a request for extra's in late October so no doubt filmed shortly after and the club sat on it for two months awaiting a run of good results. When we couldn't buy a win in November or early December that didn't help the fact it all seemed to land simultaneously with announcements or Derek and Jim stepping back and a new WS board keen to kickstart things. The merits of the video's are up for debate, just, I dunno, if you have to do a 1 on 1 about the message the day after and allay fears, set the record straight, probably safe to say it didn't fully hit the brief. Derek said 4 people has been interviewed in the aftermath of Flow leaving and he'd never experienced a situation where all 4 were not available at the end of the process for various reasons. Fast forward to today and we have a new CEO starting imminently who has received almost universal praise from fans of his former clubs. In such an emotive business I'd say that's pretty rare so maybe that is one thing that has paid off for us in the long run. So aye, long and short is, the video's my fault .... sorry. Edited March 22 by Vietnam91 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, capt_oats said: Bring him home. We should have airlifted him into Ibrox for full time the other week. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliphas Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Vietnam91 said: To give a bit of context here and maybe explain why it needed to be done. McMahon stood up at the 2022 AGM and went on about the hole that needed plugged due to the perfect storm trinity we've all been exposed to so often. At the time I am sure £300,000k was the figure used as the hole (now £750k). The unique way the club has evolved, the brand, the community and social outreach, the family element, hard working town, down on luck and the non sectarian stuff was all highlighted that would be something they hoped a company or individual would like to align with. Fast forward to AGM 2023. Jim gives almost the same presentation word for word. Upon finishing and opening to the floor I said words (and I paraphrase from memory) "Jim, that's pretty much was you said a year ago, if this funding gap is so significant and way in excess of the 100k we are saving on the pitch now, why has nothing been done?". Jim held his hands up and apologised saying that the ball had been dropped and eyes taken off the ball by other issues. Simply put, McMahon couldn't show up at the most recent one having said nothing has been done on this front for an additional year, he had to have something to show. The WS put out a request for extra's in late October so no doubt filmed shortly after and the club sat on it for two months awaiting a run of good results. When we couldn't buy a win in November or early December that didn't help the fact it all seemed to land simultaneously with announcements or Derek and Jim stepping back and a new WS board keen to kickstart things. The merits of the video's are up for debate, just, I dunno, if you have to do a 1 on 1 about the message the day after and allay fears, set the record straight, probably safe to say it didn't fully hit the brief. Derek said 4 people has been interviewed in the aftermath of Flow leaving and he'd never experienced a situation where all 4 were not available at the end of the process for various reasons. Fast forward to today and we have a new CEO starting imminently who has received almost universal praise from fans of his former clubs. In such an emotive business I'd say that's pretty rare so maybe that is one thing that has paid off for us in the long run. So aye, long and short is, the video's my fault .... sorry. Haha, fair play. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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