Torfason Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Sturm Graz want to sign Arsenal and Denmark U21s striker Mika Biereth, 21, on a permanent deal following a successful loan spell. (Evening Standard) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 8 hours ago, Torfason said: Sturm Graz want to sign Arsenal and Denmark U21s striker Mika Biereth, 21, on a permanent deal following a successful loan spell. (Evening Standard) Could we not? Thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Talking of unobtainable ex's - thought Spencer was excellent for Norn Irn last night... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 31 minutes ago, Swello said: Talking of unobtainable ex's - thought Spencer was excellent for Norn Irn last night... I know Stevie Hammell's cursed amulet is a running bit but in terms of the very specific profile of wing back that we seem to like then between Furlong, Gent, Spencer, Devine, Montgomery (for the very short time we saw him) along with Johnston I guess, we've been doing all right. Again, not to labour the point but it feels like a lot of the grief our recruitment has got is more tied to some folks perception of the HoR and results rather than whether the players are actually any good or not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrics Mighty Well Army Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Mika link: https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-fc-transfer-news-biereth-2024-b1147708.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casagolda Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 (edited) 3 hours ago, Swello said: Talking of unobtainable ex's - thought Spencer was excellent for Norn Irn last night... Imagine we’d actually got a good few months of him and Gent down either flank, bombing forward and getting some decent service into Mika…. Shame that Kettlewell completely lost the run of himself during that period and we never really got to see it. Had one of the best strikers in the country feeding off scraps most weeks while Gent and Spencer only ever started 4 games together. But aye, I agree with @capt_oatsabove. Despite a presumably reduced budget and having to move on a lot deadwood, I think the recruitment on the whole has actually been pretty good this season. Certainly be interesting to see what Kettlewell gets up to this summer with essentially a clean slate to work from. Edited March 27 by Casagolda 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) @Casagolda's post above has me thinking about the big 'what ifs' of the season, eg: what if Robinson's hammer throwers didn't break Mika, what if Kettlewell had introduced Gent and Dave to the starting line-up before he ended up having to hail mary them in post County. I don't think it's wide of the mark to say that Biereth was, legitimately, one of the best strikers in the league. I know there's been chat along the lines of he must have ended up with us by mistake but there's a fair amount of credit due for getting him in even if it was a deal that ultimately booted us squarely in the baws. On the recruitment in general here's a very long listicle of our signings since 21/22 when Daws got the gig = 51 in total (I've listed Obika twice for his loan spell which IMO was fine and his permanent which is very much not). I've separated out that initial intake who were signed on the classic Robinson style short term deal and were basically here to fill a jersey vs folk we clearly signed with a serious intention of them contributing to the first team but ended up falling pretty far short. I could be wrong but I'd suggest that a chunk of those Hammell signings were more down to his 'contacts' than our recruitment team. Maybe it's recency bias but I'd say that Kettlewell's actually got more right than wrong regardless of the whole no wins in 15 or whatever it was. It's been a dead horse that I'm inclined to keep flogging but I honestly don't see that list being markedly worse than the signings we were making with Foyle and Robinson...especially if you draw up the incomings during Foyle's final window which included Eddie Nolan, Lawleff, Tyler Magloire, Big Weird Harry Smith (who may actually be a shout for our Theo Bair award given he went on to score 15 in 45 for Leyton Orient the season after his brief loan with us) and Sam Foley. Either way 51 bodies in is a wild number but then you remember all the injuries and loan recalls...and it's still a wild number even allowing for an amount of context: Graham Alexander (7th Jan 21 - 29th July 2022): Connor Shields - bust Justin Amaluzor - ringer Kaiyne Woolery - fine Kevin Van Veen - Liam Kelly - fine Darragh O'Connor - ringer Mich'el Parker - ringer Callum Slattery - fine Juhani Ojala - bust Sean Goss - Sondre Johansen - fine Ross Tierney - I still believe Jordan Roberts - fine Victor Nirennold - ringer but the east stand remembers Joseph Efford - him reportedly being on daft money makes him a bust Robbie Mahon - signed for the unders Liam Shaw (loan) - might have been fine if Alexander hadn't decided he didn't like his face Blair Spittal - Paul McGinn - Josh Morris - LOL - bust Aston Oxborough - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ hard to have an opinion, he was brought in as back-up to Kelly and has sat on the bench. Steven Hammell (29th July 2022 - 11th February 2023): Shane Blaney - fine Mikael Mandron - fine Riku Danzaki - bust Jack Aitchison - meh Dan Casey - up to his injury - fine Callum Butcher - up to his injury - fine Stuart McKinstry (loan) - fine until Kettlewell binned him Matt Penney (loan) - fine Rolando Aarons (loan) - bust Louis Moult (loan) - bust Ollie Crankshaw (loan) - bust James Furlong (loan) - Jonathan Obika (loan) - fine Stuart Kettlewell (11th February - present): Harry Paton - fine Jonathan Obika - bust Conor Wilkinson - fine Pape Souaré - bust Davor Zdravkovski - Thelonius Bair - Callan Elliot - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Sam Nicholson - fine Moses Ebiye - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Mika Biereth (loan) - Brodie Spencer (loan) - Oli Shaw (loan) - LOL - bust Georgie Gent (loan) - Adam Montgomery (loan) - could have been Andy Halliday (loan) - fine Jack Vale (loan) - Adam Devine (loan) - [redacted] (loan) - bust Edited March 27 by capt_oats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowsdower Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Josh Morris - LOL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurrayWell Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 40 minutes ago, capt_oats said: Jonathan Obika - bust 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Ye cannae call Wilkinson fine. An absolute mega bust and hunted within 6 months tells you the story. Same as Danzaki. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self-raising Lazarus Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 3 hours ago, MurrayWell said: Should be - Hamstring 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Ive long thought that our two What Ifs were Dunne’s tackle and Miller failing to avoid the Livingston boy. Biereth had literally played 30 minutes at that point, and the loss to Livi started the ‘run’ in a bad way. This whole year could have been different. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegsjoe_mfc Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 hours ago, MP_MFC said: Ye cannae call Wilkinson fine. An absolute mega bust and hunted within 6 months tells you the story. Same as Danzaki. Mega bust is very harsh. I wasn't disappointed to see him go, but he never got a run of starts and scored three very crucial league goals which all won us points. However, I do concede that any good was undone by wearing number 99 and taking corners (badly) despite being 6ft plus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil86 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 16 hours ago, capt_oats said: I don't think it's wide of the mark to say that Biereth was, legitimately, one of the best strikers in the league. I know there's been chat along the lines of he must have ended up with us by mistake but there's a fair amount of credit due for getting him in even if it was a deal that ultimately booted us squarely in the baws. That was me. And whilst I do firmly believe it was a total fluke we got him, I totally agree that the club are due a lot of credit for making it happen. He looks as though he could go on to have a very very good career at a top level, and it will be one of those where folk are like mind when Biereth was at Motherwell. Like Aaron Mooy at St Mirren, just a lot better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 13 hours ago, MP_MFC said: Ye cannae call Wilkinson fine. An absolute mega bust and hunted within 6 months tells you the story. Same as Danzaki. Fine as came as a free, and we got compensation for moving him out.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well fan for life Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Imo with Wilkinson there is a good player at our level there somewhere. Quite skilful and could finish well. Wrong time, wrong club. Clearly he wasn't happy, Kettlewell had lost the run of himself sticking him in at centre mid when we had Davor sitting on the bench. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 12 hours ago, crazylegsjoe_mfc said: Mega bust is very harsh. I wasn't disappointed to see him go, but he never got a run of starts and scored three very crucial league goals which all won us points. 3 minutes ago, well fan for life said: Imo with Wilkinson there is a good player at our level there somewhere. Quite skilful and could finish well. Wrong time, wrong club. Clearly he wasn't happy, Kettlewell had lost the run of himself sticking him in at centre mid when we had Davor sitting on the bench. Aye. This is pretty much where I am with Wilkinson. He wasn't here very long, his calf exploded but IMO he had enough about him that you could see why we brought him in. He chipped in with some well taken, important goals and ended up being played totally out of position at the point when Kettlewell lost the run of himself before moving him on for a nominal fee. Like I say, fine. I'd have though that had he stuck around he'd probably have ended up being a Chrissy Long equivalent (a fellow #99). He's very much a no harm, no foul signing in my book. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Jon Obika has to be our worst signing ever given we knew he was a permacrock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desp Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I don't think Wilkinson's issue was his footballing ability. I think he underestimated Scottish Football and got a bit of a shock when he very quickly realised it wasn't kick and rush fitba like League 1/League 2 in England. However, as Co-Convenor of The NumberPolis (alongside @crazylegsjoe_mfc) it's heartening to see we've launched #99 & #77 already this season, and realised that #66 is no longer any good and have him nowhere near the side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I think Wilkinson was... fine. Probably isn't worth what we were presumably paying him and 3 goals doesn't look great on paper but if we'd persisted for the second half of the season and he'd left after scoring 6 or 7 I think folk would be saying he hadn't worked out but had did a job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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