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53 minutes ago, Busta Nut said:

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That's a good group. Shkendija/Valmiera is probably the most beatable tie across all groups. Any of the other 3 would be big favourites against Motherwell. Much easier group than Dundee United's. 

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14 minutes ago, Phillips455 said:

Apparently, PAOK are in both group 3 AND 5. So either the seeding have been messed up or PAOK will have to play 2 teams at the same time.

They are. I can see this being redrawn

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9 minutes ago, Busta Nut said:

They are. I can see this being redrawn

Pretty sure there is a pairing thatbhasnt been posted on that list that they accidently put the PAOK piar in. Will wait and see if they change it though.

 

Edit: others have found that the CSKA Sofia vs MGP tie isn't on the list so they must have mistaken that for the POAK Tie. Should be fixed relatively soon.

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57 minutes ago, rowsdower said:

Hope it's group 5 they fix, otherwise United fans that booked flights to where paok is are going to revolt.

The tie that's missing is:

CSKA-Sofia (BUL) vs Makedonija GP Skopje (MKD)

They got their Levski's and the CSKA's mixed up. Probably a copy and paste blunder, as to which group they pop into that's one for UEFA. Summer intern kid getting his jotters.

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1 hour ago, Phillips455 said:

Anyway, it seems that if we are draw with the first 2 ties, we would be seeded for the Play off Round (assuming we even make it that far). The other 2 would leave us unseeded in that case.

 

Info can be found here: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedecl2022.html

I thought if we progress by beating anyone we are drawn with in Q3 then we keep our co-efficient regardless of our victory, we don't replace them in their current place in the draw as shown. But when you read the small print (3x) you are right (I think) that the coefficient of the better team from any draw is used because the draw is made before the tie is completed. Suppose it is a small bonus for doing a giant killing (in the case of Astana or Prague).

We are 12th in the Q3 unseeded teams and Villareal, West Ham and Fiorentina enter directly at the Playoff stage with 2 Europa League dropouts (don't understand why Bert has Rapid Wien as "unknown").

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5 hours ago, Kapowzer said:

I thought if we progress by beating anyone we are drawn with in Q3 then we keep our co-efficient regardless of our victory, we don't replace them in their current place in the draw as shown. But when you read the small print (3x) you are right (I think) that the coefficient of the better team from any draw is used because the draw is made before the tie is completed. Suppose it is a small bonus for doing a giant killing (in the case of Astana or Prague).

We are 12th in the Q3 unseeded teams and Villareal, West Ham and Fiorentina enter directly at the Playoff stage with 2 Europa League dropouts (don't understand why Bert has Rapid Wien as "unknown").

Yeah but this is assuming the seeded team win the ties. If, somehow, the unseeded team wins then we would also be unseeded as we.

 

Basically it's either a extremely hard 3rd round and much easier ay off,  or a slightly less harder 3rd Round and a harder Play off.

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2 hours ago, eliphas said:

I'm reading Kevin Twaddle's autobiography now, it's good fun reading the back room stuff about Spenny etc, but the gambling stuff is pretty grim.  

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Assuming the favourites get through each of those ties, the only one I’m guessing we’d have even a slight chance against would be the Macedonian mob. Astana, Basaksehir (who just signed Mesut Ozil) and Sparta would batter us.
Prague is probably the best option for playing a big name and relatively easy travel.

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Interesting draw - a few countries that I've not been to, so that makes it exciting enough for me.

I went to a Sparta game when I was last in Prague - on the day they were shite and got beat by a Motherwell equivalent in the league.

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At the end of the game, the team were sent to the end where all the ultras were to take some abuse - they basically stood there while everyone shouted at them for 5 minutes (it was like a real life version of 'Flow's twitter mentions).

Also - the home end was interesting

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